What is better for ED, hotas or dual sticks?

[areudeadyet]

I want to upgrade from gamepad and still not sure what to choose. For my budget, i am looking between this two setups. Please, tell me what do you prefer and why.

Thrustmaster T.16000M Hotas

or

Thrustmaster T.16000M dual sticks combo

[Alrik]

Originally posted by funkynutz:

Originally posted by Alrik:

The benefit of the T16000 FCS throttle is the wipper you can use for rolling instead of the twist axis of the stick.

What kind of mutant uses the twist axis for roll?!?!? :KOH:

The mutants who learned space sims with Wing Commander & Freespace?

[casdarius]

Originally posted by areudeadyet:

I want to upgrade from gamepad and still not sure what to choose. For my budget, i am looking between this two setups. Please, tell me what do you prefer and why.

Thrustmaster T.16000M Hotas

or

Thrustmaster T.16000M dual sticks combo

hotas specifically ch products hotas with pedals... ive tried pretty much every hotas and even dual stick setup and it was an expensive process. ch has very high internal build quality and you can order individual internal parts to replace any damaged part... they have all metal internal parts not like saitek or many of the other options on the market which are exceptionally overpriced by comparison to build quality. a plethora of button imputs for mapping and decent software. all of this can also be completely avoided by using a common sense keyboard and mouse layout. if that is comfortable to you considering its quite effecient as well.

[Pathfinder Serza]

I was flying with the T16kM and TWCS... HOTAS. Plus pedals.

Switched to KB/M the other day for Goids. Not going back anytime soon.

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Alrik:

Originally posted by funkynutz:

What kind of mutant uses the twist axis for roll?!?!?

The mutants who learned space sims with Wing Commander & Freespace?

That would be me. Except I always rebound it so that the X axis was roll, and the twist axis was yaw.

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

Originally posted by funkynutz:

What kind of mutant uses the twist axis for roll?!?!?

The same one who uses a mouse X axis for roll?.. ;)

Urgh... *shudders*

[Chaad Losan]

Both

[Mazzle Dazzle]

For me it was Hosas but thrustmaster's have a known joystick drift issue so I would only get it if you want to add hall effect sensor mod for the yaw which starts failing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/m0o1a3/thrustmaster_t16000m_yaw_axis_hall_effect_sensor/
I ended up shelling out for a better dual stick setup with the VKB gladiator. It's pricey though.

[Weaver]

I would say you're probably going to get more functionality out of the HOTAS kit. I owned the Thrustmaster T16000M FCS Flight Pack for around 6-7 years, and for what it was...it was good enough.

But between the software issues (TARGET GUI is a nightmare to use...in Avorion, you can't even do a full loop if you're on Mouse Steering, because TARGET GUI thinks it can't go any further for some reason) and general durability issues, I no longer recommend them.

Between the two, I'm seeing twelve of the stick's buttons on the base, which means you're taking your hand off of one of the sticks to reach them. I see that as a serious design flaw; one which might limit the versatility of your control layout.

You'll pay double the price, but I highly recommend VKB. On the stick alone, you're getting three hats and an analog stick, whereas the T16000M just has the one hat.