Elite Dangerous

Elite Dangerous

ZombieHunter 22/mai./2016 às 10:31
Exploration so boring I killed myself
So I found the one activity in ED I absolutely cannot do any more of. Because of this I'll probably never attain Triple Elite. I set off on a trip to the core a month or so ago. Everything was going fine till I asked myself why am I doing this? It wasn't about the credits I'd receive when I got back and it sure wasn't b/c I wanted to see the same exact sights and sounds over and over and over and over again. I realized the farther out I got the less I wanted to play ED.

So when I couldn't answer the question and could barely muster up enough stamina to play ED I dropped locally near a sun 13000 lyrs from the bubble, charged my FSD, let the thing overheat and ultimately commited suicide b/c I was so bored and anxious to get back to the bubble to actually do something other than jump, scoop, scan, jump, scoop, scan. Oh the tedium.

Whoever came up with this gameplay as exploration must have enjoyed long boring monotonous tasks repeated ad infinitum. None of it is fun. More like work. I do enough work away from home.

So thanks Frontier. Your idea of exploration is sooooo boring I'd rather kill myself and lose millions than be tasked with doing any of it again.

I'm so glad to be back in the bubble that the lost credits mean nothing to me. I seriously hope they add more to the exploraiton of the game. Let us build something on a planet or if not that let us do something more than just jump, scoop, scan, jump, scoop, scan. OMG just saying it makes me ill.

Probably going to require therapy now. :)

Última edição por ZombieHunter; 22/mai./2016 às 10:33
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dsfsdjh 23/mai./2016 às 10:45 
Escrito originalmente por longstar:
Escrito originalmente por cwruc325:

Soon, we will have one. :) and then two and then 1000. We will never stop advancing understanding and inventing new things.
not soon enough for me, that is the problem.. I doubt FTL travel will get mainstream and available for plebs like me in my lifetime.

So games like this is my best bet to see the Galaxy, however poorly made anyone think it is.

Honestly, I know it will. We are already very close. And the reason why it is becoming such a popular thing in the last few years is because we are getting close.
AbsynthMinded 23/mai./2016 às 10:50 
The only way to improve exploration is tomake it terrifyingly dangerous to do.
raymazoida 23/mai./2016 às 10:59 
Escrito originalmente por cwruc325:
And all of you people do not realize that you cannot compare ED gameplay with actual real life space exploration.

In real life space exploration you could do 1000x more things and see 1000x more things then you can in ED...so in real life, things are very very interesting...just imagine going to a Mars and ssetting up a Base and then explore the ass out of the planet...I am pretty sure you would not get borred after few hours on the planet...yet alone having actual warp drive and go through the actual galaxy to see all the new amazing things and then land on most suitable planets and explore around

In real life things are amazing, in ED things lack 99.99% of things that are actually possible in real life...the galaxy is realistic, you can go from one point to the other, see round objects over and over again, land on some barren planets but that is where exploration ends.

Actually no

I'm pretty sure most people would indeed get bored after a few hours.

You know what early explorers of mars are going to be doing?

NASA Health and Safety checks, collecting soil samples, lots of soil samples, stuff thats actually so basic a robot can do it. Then they do what exactly?

You think one crater on mars is going to be so much difference from the next? Driving it in an SRV will be like driving on Mercury in game (which you can do) Now I like it, but I'm not going to drive on mercury for say 5 straight weeks and not be bored!

All of the "really interesting stuff" will be done by colonists. The explorers will be doing some very repetitive very boring stuff, where the first day would get like a billion youtube views, and by the end of the week people would be back watching soaps! And some video of cats will be more popular again!

Look at what happened with the moon landings! People couldn't give a rats by the last few.

What many people actually fail to understand is how incredibly boring space exploration would be.

99% of it would be sat in a space ship doing diddly squat. Hence why people think the biggest problem we have to overcome to get to mars is the crew not going batty on the journey! This isn't Star Trek where one day you jump out at a world full of beautiful scantilly clad women, the next day you are fighting Zorn and he day after a planet full of Robots!

Oh and as you are obviously pretty uninformed as to the game there is more to see than "round objects"

You know what a nebula is? I've been to dozens, and each one is unique and worth at least an hour of my in game time to spend exploring.

I could go on all day about just how wrong you are.

But I have things to do.
AbsynthMinded 23/mai./2016 às 11:05 
Exploration is indeed boring in reality, except for the constant possibility of disaster occuring at any moment. Then as Matt D said reecenly "I'm going to Science the S%!T out of it". But we are in a simulator, and can not feel that unles they redesign the experience alot in ED.
FT 23/mai./2016 às 11:12 
Who game is boring m8

Looks and sounds amazing but there's sod all to do.
raymazoida 23/mai./2016 às 11:12 
Escrito originalmente por AbsynthMinded:
Exploration is indeed boring in reality, except for the constant possibility of disaster occuring at any moment. Then as Matt D said reecenly "I'm going to Science the S%!T out of it". But we are in a simulator, and can not feel that unles they redesign the experience alot in ED.

I melted my ship to death last night losing 3 weeks of play time. Because RL distracted me.

There are many others with similar experiances.

Anyone who explorers for a long time actually realises its the most dangerous part of ED. You start to weigh every planetary landing, "do I really need to risk this" etc The longer you are out the more conservative you become.

Anyone who has actually "crashed and burnt" during exploration will indeed feel that "constant possibiilty of disaster occouring at any moment".

And just like several of Mark Whatneys The disasters are generally due to loss of focus.
SLO7H 23/mai./2016 às 12:13 
Exploration SHOULD be fun, but the developers made it boring and unrewarding.
This is how it should be:

1. You have to actually LAND on the planet and do a bit of exploring, like only 2 -5 minutes are mandatory, then you use your ship to store data you find during this time. Then you go to the next planet until the whole system i discovered.

2. The payment for doing exploration like this should be really rewarding money-wise. I am not going to explore just to look at some planets from a distance and practically get no money.

3. At least SOME interesting artifacts or SOMETHING on the planets.
Sasquatch_Punter 23/mai./2016 às 12:13 
Escrito originalmente por Agony_Aunt:
Escrito originalmente por Sasquatch_Punter:
The most interesting planet I've seen has been a gas giant with a green cloud layer. That says a lot about how uninspired the system generation is.

Its inspired by what we know of the real universe. Its based on science, not fantasy.

It's a facile approximation of our galaxy at best, Aunt. The space nerd in me wants to like it, but there's just not enough to see to warrant the enormous time requirement imho.
jasonbarron 23/mai./2016 às 13:23 
I think a lot of people (such as Punter) have a view of space exploration that wildly differs from reality. The real thing would be mind numbingly tedious, and in that regard, Fdev freaking nailed it:)

In all seriousness, my great enjoyment of the exploration career path is one that I can't really explain on paper--the explorers out there get it, and those that don't feel the pull of the deeps...don't get it. I understand and sympathize with that latter group. Enhancing the visuals (and they are somewhat with 1.6/2.1) would be appreciated, but what the career really needs for a shot in the arm are more things "to do" whilst out in the deeps. Some planet side exploration besides minimal material gathering would be a great start, plus some Outposts at great intervals that form waypoints and focal points for industry & group activities would be another, just to begin with.

We know that Fdev is going to be fleshing out more planetary types and interstellar phenomena--hopefully that will make things more interesting for people. In the meantime, exploration remains for the hardcore types.
Última edição por jasonbarron; 23/mai./2016 às 13:24
Sasquatch_Punter 23/mai./2016 às 17:39 
Escrito originalmente por jasonbarron:
We know that Fdev is going to be fleshing out more planetary types and interstellar phenomena--hopefully that will make things more interesting for people. In the meantime, exploration remains for the hardcore types.

This. I'm a bit skeptical about what Frontier can do with procedural phenomena this late in development, but I'm really hoping that they flesh out more areas of the galaxy. Big star forming regions like Barnard's Loop, with nebulae that are tightly packed with young stars are far more common than the current model would indicate. For God's sake, check out that abrupt dropoff of large nebulae past the core; I can't be the only one who thinks that looks awful.

I think a lot of people (such as Punter) have a view of space exploration that wildly differs from reality. The real thing would be mind numbingly tedious, and in that regard, Fdev freaking nailed it:)

I'm into astronomy and astrophotography, which in practice is a hobby that bores most people to tears. What I'm saying is that FD's galactic model is not much like the real thing; it's more of a giant layered space cake that lacks complexity. Check out photos of M51; those hot regions of gas aren't just an aesthetic mask that fades the closer you move to it like it does in ED; those regions really are FILLED with amazing structures like Barnard's Loop and the Tarantula nebula, and have star fields that are even denser than what you find near the core in ED.

ED has a lot of great procedurally-generated stuff in it, but the galactic model might just be the weakest implementation of PG in the game. That's why it's boring to me.
Última edição por Sasquatch_Punter; 23/mai./2016 às 17:57
Agony_Aunt 23/mai./2016 às 22:13 
Escrito originalmente por AbsynthMinded:
The only way to improve exploration is tomake it terrifyingly dangerous to do.

Wait until you jump between a contact binary. Then you will need a new pair of trousers :D
Cogenerate 23/mai./2016 às 22:30 
Escrito originalmente por Viper74:
So I found the one activity in ED I absolutely cannot do any more of. Because of this I'll probably never attain Triple Elite. I set off on a trip to the core a month or so ago. Everything was going fine till I asked myself why am I doing this? It wasn't about the credits I'd receive when I got back and it sure wasn't b/c I wanted to see the same exact sights and sounds over and over and over and over again. I realized the farther out I got the less I wanted to play ED.

So when I couldn't answer the question and could barely muster up enough stamina to play ED I dropped locally near a sun 13000 lyrs from the bubble, charged my FSD, let the thing overheat and ultimately commited suicide b/c I was so bored and anxious to get back to the bubble to actually do something other than jump, scoop, scan, jump, scoop, scan. Oh the tedium.

Whoever came up with this gameplay as exploration must have enjoyed long boring monotonous tasks repeated ad infinitum. None of it is fun. More like work. I do enough work away from home.

So thanks Frontier. Your idea of exploration is sooooo boring I'd rather kill myself and lose millions than be tasked with doing any of it again.

I'm so glad to be back in the bubble that the lost credits mean nothing to me. I seriously hope they add more to the exploraiton of the game. Let us build something on a planet or if not that let us do something more than just jump, scoop, scan, jump, scoop, scan. OMG just saying it makes me ill.

Probably going to require therapy now. :)


You know, I'm gonna have to agree with you. Exploration is boring. But that doesn't mean you have to give-up on ranking your exploration. Carry an Advanced Exploration Scanner with you while you jump around the bubble. You'd be surprised how much cartographic data you can collect while doing other things.
YourBoyWang 23/mai./2016 às 23:38 
Escrito originalmente por Viper74:
So I found the one activity in ED I absolutely cannot do any more of. Because of this I'll probably never attain Triple Elite. I set off on a trip to the core a month or so ago. Everything was going fine till I asked myself why am I doing this? It wasn't about the credits I'd receive when I got back and it sure wasn't b/c I wanted to see the same exact sights and sounds over and over and over and over again. I realized the farther out I got the less I wanted to play ED.

So when I couldn't answer the question and could barely muster up enough stamina to play ED I dropped locally near a sun 13000 lyrs from the bubble, charged my FSD, let the thing overheat and ultimately commited suicide b/c I was so bored and anxious to get back to the bubble to actually do something other than jump, scoop, scan, jump, scoop, scan. Oh the tedium.

Whoever came up with this gameplay as exploration must have enjoyed long boring monotonous tasks repeated ad infinitum. None of it is fun. More like work. I do enough work away from home.

So thanks Frontier. Your idea of exploration is sooooo boring I'd rather kill myself and lose millions than be tasked with doing any of it again.

I'm so glad to be back in the bubble that the lost credits mean nothing to me. I seriously hope they add more to the exploraiton of the game. Let us build something on a planet or if not that let us do something more than just jump, scoop, scan, jump, scoop, scan. OMG just saying it makes me ill.

Probably going to require therapy now. :)

This is why I love this game regardless of what people say negative about it. I'm new to to the exploring part, but it maybe in the "bubble." I added the fact of Hunting (Assaination Missions) to my exploration of the "bubble." As I wait for my prey to pop up on comms or my scans. I take a look at what the planets have to offer. What do they look like? The color? See how the rings shine when they hit the sun just right.

I once came across a Metal Rich Planet with Pristine reserve ring, but it was a dark planet. 45,000ls away from the systems sun. I went to go bounty hunt for the first time in the dark. Nothing was more fulfilling coming up to a planet that was dark and errie. The rings looked like they were fading into the black, but just to let you know that they were there. Pirates battling T9's for cargo, what a light show. Then more pop up. More Thermal, Kinetic, and everything else you can imagine just lit up the black. I just sat there and did not partake, but admire the spectical that was at hand while listening to Time in a Bottle by Jim Croce.

As i watch these Pirates take out some innocent T9's, ASPX, or Cobra MkIII's. I came to realize that while my comms lit up for help and did nothing. I was the biggest a-hole in the system for letting them die just because I was too into the light show.

Don't turn it to a grind add an angle to it to make it more that what it is. This game has more to offer than just a grind. Remember, Winter is coming. And it coming from the Formidine Rift.
D[n]A 24/mai./2016 às 1:06 
I love the exploration, & when i get board i go play one of the other 55 games in steam or go play ,the uplay games or play my games in origin,,,,


And if i really get fed up i can watch movies, Tee.Vee shows, etc...


And if none of that does it i go out side and look up and "say to my self how bloody luck i am"

All that even tho i suffer with severe depression, and social phobia....

:steamhappy:

Urah 24/mai./2016 às 4:29 
It's the Elite's Bovril

Best thing in the universe.
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