Tankiest medium size ship or cheap large ship

[Williamb2011]

I'm looking to outfit a support ship thats big and tanky with a good/decent jump range that I want to fit up with heal beam lasers to play a supportive role in thargoid hunting. Any ideas?

[Christofor]

Anaconda,Cutter, Type-10, Gunship, Chieftain.

[Agony_Aunt]

The Federal ships make good hull tanks. Not so great on the shields. FdL is good on shields but has a paper hull.

Ships like the Python and Krait can be fairly good with both.

[funny man]

That’s a tall order you’re asking for. The Alliance and Federal ships are all tanky medium ships. The Anaconda, Type 10, and Corvette are tanky large ships. None of them can get a halfway decent jump range though except for the Conda. None of the large ships are cheap either. With most clocking at easily over 300 million. And the Conda(which fits most of what you’re asking for) will cost over 400 million and potentially 500 million credits to fully outfit. There isn’t any ship that fits exactly what you’re asking for.

[Sugam]

Just gonna say, type 10 defender is a fun ship to play with. True with the price though. I have sunk about 400m into it including its buying cost and I see myself soon sinking another 150m'ish once I really decide on its last remaining hard points.

[JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi]

Define cheap??
Tanky mid ship I'll probably say the Fed Assault ship, is far more maneuverable than the Dropship, with slightly less internals... not that great jump range though. But relatively cheap. I haven't tried the Gunship, but neither has great jump range, I have a Dropship and Assaultship with engineered FSD and can barely reach 30ly.

There's no such thing as cheap large ship :-) (well, technically the Type-7)

With great range you probably looking Kraits or Pythons

[Vahnkiljoy]

There is no such thing as a cheap large ship, they are freaking large. That and ANY ship can be tanky if you make it, the only real inherently tanky mediums are fed ships due to having beefy hulls but bunk shields(though the gunship can get decent shields).

[Mr Robert House]

The krait mk 2 is the meta for thargoid hunting, 4 gauss cannons and a heal beam could work. Going any smaller I guess the FAS could work, but I think it runs hotter.

An imperial clipper isn't very tanky but it's speed could make up for that, and could fit a class 7 repair limpet and gimballed heal beams in its terrible off centre hardpoints.

Tanking and jump range don't go together btw

[Dread Lord]

tankiest medium sized ship is the Python after that the krait MK 2

[Dread Lord]

Originally posted by Chris(BE):

Anaconda,Cutter, Type-10, Gunship, Chieftain.

anaconda, cutter, type 10 are not medium... and Python is way more of a tank then Gunship or Chieftain!

[WRONGTURN]

IMO, if you use fao, and know how to fly the python, I believe the python can take any krait because it can maintain it's sheilds longer . Using fao negates any manuvering advantage the krait might have. It also depends on the way the ship is set up also. But I will take the python over ANY medium ship in pve. That includes the fdl.

[WRONGTURN]

Originally posted by WRONGTURN:

IMO, if you use fao, and know how to fly the python, I believe the python can take any krait because it can maintain it's sheilds longer . Using fao negates any manuvering advantage the krait might have. It also depends on the way the ship is set up also. But I will take the python over ANY medium ship in pve. That includes the fdl.

now that I think about it,,,,that includes pvp also.

[플라스모듐]

i think it depends on who you are supporting. In my experience with goid hunting, i normally run shieldless cold builds, and healy beams would be nearly useless in the a supportive role.

The python has the option of getting a decent amount of hull, and having better hull hardness, 65 (python) - 55 (krait). With the extra optionals, you'll be able to put in things like repair limpet and cargo space for limpets and running all the HRPs you'll need to keep your tank up. You can run healy beams as well if you so please, they still work when the thargoid puts up its shields, and you can help transition into exerting the next heart sooner.

in terms of maneuverability, the krait is faster than the python, but they both have nearly identical pitch yaw and roll, and should feel fairly similar. I think the python is easier to maneuver since the top speed is lower and your thrusters are pretty good at vector changes.

The alliance ships with the exception of the crusader are also really good. Plenty of optionals, good hull hardness of 65, great hard points including good convergence. Don't get the crusader, it's just bad, it's weaker and slower than both, and for that you get a SLF (not worth IMO). The chieftain is very maneuverable and fast, decent damage, good tank. The challenger is slower, but you get a little more tank and damage.

Some folks have suggested using the federal ships. They are good ships, but since the alliance ships exist, the federal ships are just not as good as they use to be. Hull hardness of 60, and practically no shields (not a problem if you plan on a shieldless cold build, they do run cooler, and it is easier to stay cold with a single thermal vent beam). They are still fun little ships. But other than just the enjoyment of flying one, they are on paper, just not as good as they use to be. It's a preference thing.

Those are basically your options. Unfortunately, if you're looking for a cheap large ship, they don't exist, they are very pricey to buy, and to outfit. They also take quite a bit of time and effort to engineer since they have tons of optionals, hardpoints and utility mounts.

TLDR: Python is probably what you're looking for, but the alliance chieftain and the challenger may peak your interest.

[Elitch]

You want a Python. If you are asking the question, you probably don't have the skill to pilot an Anaconda.

Myself, I have a fleet of Imperial Cutters.

[Mr Robert House]

Originally posted by Hadrian:

You want a Python. If you are asking the question, you probably don't have the skill to pilot an Anaconda.

Myself, I have a fleet of Imperial Cutters.

The cutter is great for ax support and everything else, it can have everything but I'm guessing op can't afford that, the clipper is cheap af though, like 22 million base I think. Isn't the python too slow to survive ax combat without G5 thruster engineering?