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ShowTime13 Dec 16, 2018 @ 9:02am
5gb of ram is enough?
I know there's minimum requirements with 6gb, but i think, maybe it's possible to play with 5? Will i have some lags if so?
Originally posted by b0om:
5 will run. You'll likely have microstutters relatively frequently but it should be playable at least.
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b0om Dec 16, 2018 @ 9:35am 
5 will run. You'll likely have microstutters relatively frequently but it should be playable at least.
Bad_Conduct Dec 16, 2018 @ 12:56pm 
Why do you only have 5GB or RAM...? Your PC isn't built correctly if it's running 5GB.
Dealman Dec 16, 2018 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Why do you only have 5GB or RAM...? Your PC isn't built correctly if it's running 5GB.

What makes you say that?
TARS Dec 16, 2018 @ 1:02pm 
What OS do you have?
Bad_Conduct Dec 16, 2018 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Dealman:
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Why do you only have 5GB or RAM...? Your PC isn't built correctly if it's running 5GB.

What makes you say that?

Memory should be in dual channel typically.
It should be 2, 4 or 8 (or 16, or 32 etc). If he's running 5 GB, that means he has 2 x 2 GB sticks and 1 x 1 GB stick. He would get better performance with 4 GB.

Either that or he has an APU and 1 GB of memory is assigned to the GPU.
Dealman Dec 16, 2018 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Memory should be in dual channel typically.
It should be 2, 4 or 8 (or 16, or 32 etc). If he's running 5 GB, that means he has 2 x 2 GB sticks and 1 x 1 GB stick. He would get better performance with 4 GB.

Either that or he has an APU and 1 GB of memory is assigned to the GPU.

Oh can people just stop with this already. Your memory bandwidth is not greatly affected if it's single-channel. Yes, it will objectively be slower - but enough to impact gaming? In 99 out of 100 cases - no. That one special case being ArmA 3.

RAM being a power of two is not what signifies whether it's dual-channel or not, the placemen of the RAM modules on the motherboard does.

He could be using 4+1GB and it'd still be dual-channel.

@OP:

I think you're fine so long as you meet the other criterias. My game rarely goes above 3-4GB RAM
Last edited by Dealman; Dec 16, 2018 @ 3:14pm
Bad_Conduct Dec 16, 2018 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Dealman:
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Memory should be in dual channel typically.
It should be 2, 4 or 8 (or 16, or 32 etc). If he's running 5 GB, that means he has 2 x 2 GB sticks and 1 x 1 GB stick. He would get better performance with 4 GB.

Either that or he has an APU and 1 GB of memory is assigned to the GPU.

Oh can people just stop with this already. Your memory bandwidth is not greatly affected if it's single-channel. Yes, it will objectively be slower - but enough to impact gaming? In 99 out of 100 cases - no. That one special case being ArmA 3.

RAM being a power of two is not what signifies whether it's dual-channel or not, the placemen of the RAM modules on the motherboard does.

He could be using 4+1GB and it'd still be dual-channel.

@OP:

I think you're fine so long as you meet the other criterias. My game rarely goes above 3-4GB RAM

4GB + 1GB would be a mis match.

Dual channel would be faster, signficantly so, more so depending on the CPU as well.
A lot of applications benefit from RAM speed, not just gaming.

Not to mention system stability from mismatching RAM.

This is just bad advice.
ShowTime13 Dec 16, 2018 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Originally posted by Dealman:

Oh can people just stop with this already. Your memory bandwidth is not greatly affected if it's single-channel. Yes, it will objectively be slower - but enough to impact gaming? In 99 out of 100 cases - no. That one special case being ArmA 3.

RAM being a power of two is not what signifies whether it's dual-channel or not, the placemen of the RAM modules on the motherboard does.

He could be using 4+1GB and it'd still be dual-channel.

@OP:

I think you're fine so long as you meet the other criterias. My game rarely goes above 3-4GB RAM

4GB + 1GB would be a mis match.

Dual channel would be faster, signficantly so, more so depending on the CPU as well.
A lot of applications benefit from RAM speed, not just gaming.

Not to mention system stability from mismatching RAM.

This is just bad advice.
it's 4 + 1 actually. I've installed 1gb more because i couldn't play DS3, now i can.
ShowTime13 Dec 16, 2018 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by RAUUUUUUUL:
What OS do you have?
W7 x64, but planning to install win10 for forza horizon reasons.
ShowTime13 Dec 16, 2018 @ 7:46pm 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
Originally posted by Dealman:

Oh can people just stop with this already. Your memory bandwidth is not greatly affected if it's single-channel. Yes, it will objectively be slower - but enough to impact gaming? In 99 out of 100 cases - no. That one special case being ArmA 3.

RAM being a power of two is not what signifies whether it's dual-channel or not, the placemen of the RAM modules on the motherboard does.

He could be using 4+1GB and it'd still be dual-channel.

@OP:

I think you're fine so long as you meet the other criterias. My game rarely goes above 3-4GB RAM

4GB + 1GB would be a mis match.

Dual channel would be faster, signficantly so, more so depending on the CPU as well.
A lot of applications benefit from RAM speed, not just gaming.

Not to mention system stability from mismatching RAM.

This is just bad advice.
the Mhz is matched, so what's the difference between 4 + 2 and 4 + 1, if it's only about the given RAM size, then i'm winning. Idk why it souldn't help me, if the ram now can go up to 5 gb of usage, and then it went only to 4.
Bannor (Banned) Dec 17, 2018 @ 4:25am 
I **seriously** doubt it. I used to have 6Gb - 2 updates ago. Now I have 24, and it seems to be struggling after 3.3.
Fix Dec 17, 2018 @ 4:39am 
That may be just some optimisation issues... from what I've seen anyway.

And as for the 4gb / 5gb... 5gb will be better than 4gb, for gaming it really is as simple as that.

But yeah, just get a couple of 4gb sticks, I mean, they're so cheap now anyway and have 8gb running.
Dealman Dec 17, 2018 @ 4:49am 
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:
4GB + 1GB would be a mis match.

Dual channel would be faster, signficantly so, more so depending on the CPU as well.
A lot of applications benefit from RAM speed, not just gaming.

Not to mention system stability from mismatching RAM.

This is just bad advice.

Come on, now you're just grasping at straws. The subject was whether it would be enough for this game - not whether it would be enough for other applications.

It is not significantly faster for games, at least not for 95% of them. People saying single channel is useless are just wannabe tech guys that heard some fancy terminology from some youtube videos.

There will be no system instability from using 5GB RAM just because it's a power of two mismatch. That is complete and utter BS and you know it.

The whole point of this though is that you said "Your PC isn't built correctly if it's running 5GB." which comes off as arrogant and extremely misinformed.

Originally posted by FixxxeR:
But yeah, just get a couple of 4gb sticks, I mean, they're so cheap now anyway and have 8gb running.

I would agree with this guy. Especially if you're planning to upgrade to Windows 10 64-bit.

I'd say nowadays 8GB of RAM is the sweet spot for your average computer.
Last edited by Dealman; Dec 17, 2018 @ 4:52am
Bad_Conduct Dec 17, 2018 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Dealman:
snip - bad advice

Giving the correct building advice isn't "grasping at straws".


Do you have any idea what the QVL is?
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X470-PRO/PRIME_X470-PRO_Memory_QVL.pdf


What does that say at the bottom again?

- Purchasing single DIMMs is not recommended because compatibility cannot be guaranteed. For the best results, please ensure all memory modules are of the same version or have the same date code (D/C) from the same vendor. Check with the memory vendor to get the correct memory modules.
- Do not combine DIMMs from multiple kits—even ones of the same make and model. Mixing and matching DIMMs can result in failure to boot.
- The default DIMM frequency depends on its Serial Presence Detect (SPD), which is the standard way of accessing information from a memory module. Under the default state, some memory modules for overclocking may operate at a lower frequency than the vendor-marked value.
- The stability and compatibility of memory modules with XMP profiles that operate beyond the JEDEC memory standard are not guaranteed. The stability and compatibility of these memory modules depend on the CPU’s capabilities and other installed devices




Oh, not to do anything you said...

Do you like warranty support?

Making ♥♥♥♥ up about building a PC and ignoring standards is grasping at straws. Just because it works for you, doesn't mean you should do it, or that you are not getting issues and you simply can't correlate them to a problem with the build.

It is NOT built correctly, and mismatched RAM is a sign of a bigger problem with the user who built it. I wouldn't recommend dropping money on a high end PC game, when your system isn't built correctly.

Let's start with the basics, and enough with the "Do whatever you want, it doesn't matter" BS tech advice. You aren't helping anyone. Stop lying about it.

I also disagree, 16GB is the new sweet spot. 8GB isn't enough for the latest PC games. FFXV can use between 10 and 12 GB of RAM.

Originally posted by ShowTime13:
Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:

4GB + 1GB would be a mis match.

Dual channel would be faster, signficantly so, more so depending on the CPU as well.
A lot of applications benefit from RAM speed, not just gaming.

Not to mention system stability from mismatching RAM.

This is just bad advice.
it's 4 + 1 actually. I've installed 1gb more because i couldn't play DS3, now i can.

Don't do that.

Buy the correct kit for the RAM, take the 1 GB stick out. It needs to be pair correctly, it's doing more harm than good. This is a motherboard standard, that's why memory comes in kits, for stability in dual, triple or quad channel settings. Mixing DDR3 or DDR4 sticks is just bad practice, besides speed, it's unstable.

There's a reason your motherboard has a QVL. Figure out what board you have, and find supported memory. Don't just throw random sticks of memory in your system. You are introducing a lot of instability.

If you are going to game on PC, do yourself a big favour and do it correctly.
Last edited by Bad_Conduct; Dec 17, 2018 @ 2:07pm
Gropax Dec 17, 2018 @ 2:39pm 
it could have been a laptop i have an old laptop that had 3gb if ram one built onto the motherboard and 1 2gb stick dell made some wierd laptops in the mid to late 00.
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