Did surface scanners just disappear?

[DaveKap]

I looked up how all the new mining works and decided to grab a surface scanner, as that's necessary to find the good spots in and around planets. However, even using eddb.io, I'm not finding any surface scanners for sale near my location. I think it mainly has to do with the fact that eddb.io is going to be out of date for most locations since the major patch was so recent but I was wondering if folks knew what types of systems I should be going to in order to find these things.

[Arya]

Scanning was completely redesigned, you have a lot of keybindings to change :)

All ships now have exploration scanners fitted, and the DSS has be redesigned. On the whole it's a much better system, you can easily scan an entire system in a matter of moments from it's star, instead of having to faff about flying to each object for a DSS scan. The DSS itself now fires probes, and even identifies POIs from orbit.

[DaveKap]

What I'm asking is how to find one to buy. None of the stations I've been landing on have it for sale.

[Super Arthritis ⁧⁧ ⁧⁧Man]

If you're Elite on anything Shinra has everything.
Otherwise I'd try high population High Tech systems or the eddb.io website.

[Catz]

Make sure you're searching for the right slot, it's an optional internal size 2. Then search for systems with all the other exploration stuff. That's how I found mine, after I wasted a bunch of time searching for it in the utility slot :3

[DaveKap]

Originally posted by Catz:

Make sure you're searching for the right slot, it's an optional internal size 2. Then search for systems with all the other exploration stuff. That's how I found mine, after I wasted a bunch of time searching for it in the utility slot :3

Dammit, I even KNEW it was an optional internal slot yet still went looking for it while in the utility slot section. Ugh! Thanks, this is probably what my problem was!

[Super Arthritis ⁧⁧ ⁧⁧Man]

Also I made a guide for the new probing.
Enjoy.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1590599103

[DaveKap]

Appreciated! I've already watched a couple videos on it... the new problem is how to fit literally all the stuff onto one ship. The Vulture can't even handle all the required supplies if I want both limpet types AND a shield.

[Super Arthritis ⁧⁧ ⁧⁧Man]

If you want to mine, you'll want a cargo ship. Type-9 is a great one, but I used to mine in a Type-7 and a Python too. You really need those module slots.

[DaveKap]

Originally posted by Tim Curry Smile:

If you want to mine, you'll want a cargo ship. Type-9 is a great one, but I used to mine in a Type-7 and a Python too. You really need those module slots.

Yeah I went in on a Type-7 but unfortunately it needs a size 2 hardpoint in order to launch seismic charges. They basically don't want newbies mining easily.

[Catz]

I thought that as well, but then I found the glorious.......KEELBACK! Though you might have to forego the shield generator for a decent build, it comes fully equipped with 2 size 1 hardpoints, 2 size 2 hardpoints, and all the optional internal spaces for your asteroid cracking needs!

I went with one of each mining tool and the lvl 3 prospector/lvl 3 collector combo. Feel free to tinker with the build - I'm not sure yet if it's better to prioritize the cargo space for additional limpets and potentially limit my prospecting speed (currently 64 space filled with limpets and I just drop em if I get full on those sweet minerals) , or to just opt for the biggest collector/prospectors and limit my space to ~30.

In my experience so far, this should be a decent primer:

1. Actually be in a hotspot once you've found it (there are guides to do this), then

2. Prospect only big rocks (don't know if small ones can be cracked but I've never found a crackable munchkin), and finally

3. Keep trying, set some reference points like the planet youre mining around or a nearby hotspot/signal source and try to be thorough, these rocks are rare and you dont wanna miss them cause they were floating behind a neighbor.

And keep those pesky Wanted CMDRs in mind as you don't wanna be randomly scanned by a wing with 10m worth of cargo in your hold don't ask how I know ;3

[Catz]

I'm a fellow casual btw but I'm on my way up!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1591132124

[DaveKap]

Originally posted by Catz:

I thought that as well, but then I found the glorious.......KEELBACK! Though you might have to forego the shield generator for a decent build

Which is exactly what I'm complaining about with the vulture :P

[Arya]

Originally posted by Catz:

And keep those pesky Wanted CMDRs in mind as you don't wanna be randomly scanned by a wing with 10m worth of cargo in your hold don't ask how I know ;3

Unexplored systems have better asteroid rings, and no wanted commanders to worry about. And there are a couple of those deep within the bubble, it's worth seeking them out.

[Super Arthritis ⁧⁧ ⁧⁧Man]

Actually I used to have an Asp Explorer rigged for mining, it was pretty decent and that definately has size 2 points.

[Arya]

Originally posted by ;2806204039997556619:

Actually I used to have an Asp Explorer rigged for mining, it was pretty decent and that definately has size 2 points.

I only mined when I was unlocking engineers, and used a Federal Gunship. They're a stout little thing, perfect for this role. They have more hardpoints than you could fly over.