does ping matter?

[Noshoe]

i have very bad ping, but ive really been looking into this game and it seems perfect for me, but if i hopped on with a buddy would my ping be an issue?

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

If you was playing solo, it wouldn't matter that much. But if there were other players in your instance, everybody would suffer because of it, cause the game uses a P2P networking to exchange everybody's positions.

[Shaken Coffee]

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

If you was playing solo, it wouldn't matter that much. But if there were other players in your instance, everybody would suffer because of it, cause the game uses a P2P networking to exchange everybody's positions.

what about just playing online and not in a private party? does everyone there connect to everyone? is this the dark souls 1 online system???

[Dark Phoenix]

Originally posted by ShakenCoffee:

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

If you was playing solo, it wouldn't matter that much. But if there were other players in your instance, everybody would suffer because of it, cause the game uses a P2P networking to exchange everybody's positions.

what about just playing online and not in a private party? does everyone there connect to everyone? is this the dark souls 1 online system???

Online and private groups use the same tech, its all p2p.

[Shaken Coffee]

i somehow doubt that. the game has a server of sorts for logins and such, but i highly doubt its p2p or there would be a lot more topics on lag-switchers or just people with bad internet.

[Noshoe]

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

If you was playing solo, it wouldn't matter that much. But if there were other players in your instance, everybody would suffer because of it, cause the game uses a P2P networking to exchange everybody's positions.

so if i wanted to play with a friend it wouldnt work out very well?

[Planewalker]

OP you should be fine, as the game is(more or less) run locally.

However, you might have slow updates when docking at stations / looking at boards etc.


As you don't state what you mean by high ping, it's a bit hard to tell. :)


And yes; the game does use p2p for some information; others are to the central server.

[Noshoe]

Originally posted by Planewalker:

OP you should be fine, as the game is(more or less) run locally.

However, you might have slow updates when docking at stations / looking at boards etc.


As you don't state what you mean by high ping, it's a bit hard to tell. :)


And yes; the game does use p2p for some information; others are to the central server.

cheers

[slipperyspace]

death to ming ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTPhAp3Ax8

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by ShakenCoffee:

i somehow doubt that. the game has a server of sorts for logins and such, but i highly doubt its p2p or there would be a lot more topics on lag-switchers or just people with bad internet.

Don't doubt it:
https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Instance
https://lavewiki.com/technical#peer-to-peer

That's how such a lag looks (watch the Anaconda):
https://youtu.be/9gcX8Z84cXs

[krashd]

In a peer to peer game only the person with the bad connection suffers unless the netcode is so crap that it lets the person with the worst connection host the instance.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by krashd:

In a peer to peer game only the person with the bad connection suffers unless the netcode is so crap that it lets the person with the worst connection host the instance.

P2P is not about one player hosting an instance for others. It's about every player sharing their immediate data with other players by directly connecting to them. So, when one player has a bad lag, others suffer, too, cause their games lag with updating.

[Planewalker]

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

P2P is not about one player hosting an instance for others. It's about every player sharing their immediate data with other players by directly connecting to them. So, when one player has a bad lag, others suffer, too, cause their games lag with updating.

Luckily, it mostly affects supercruise, as you can see ships lagporting.

There is one exception where landing on planets will sometimes slow down your braking on descent, so that is a quite valid point to take note of.
(i play with some friends that have fairly low connection speeds)

Combat works quite well on the other hand. (bounty hunting in res's, etc)

[Mu77ley]

Originally posted by ShakenCoffee:

i somehow doubt that. the game has a server of sorts for logins and such, but i highly doubt its p2p or there would be a lot more topics on lag-switchers or just people with bad internet.

All Commander <-> Commander stuff is P2P. There are servers for the background sim and markets, etc.

[Shaken Coffee]

thanks for everyone that was taking my post semi-seriously; i actually didnt think another game would have an online anywhere near like dark souls 1 and thats why i had doubts.

[Shaken Coffee]

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

Originally posted by ShakenCoffee:

i somehow doubt that. the game has a server of sorts for logins and such, but i highly doubt its p2p or there would be a lot more topics on lag-switchers or just people with bad internet.

Don't doubt it:
https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Instance
https://lavewiki.com/technical#peer-to-peer

That's how such a lag looks (watch the Anaconda):
https://youtu.be/9gcX8Z84cXs

that poor anaconda player. reminds me of playing any old game online back in the day.