400 Biljon stars. And about 13% discovered.

[Nenne.]

I just learned about this.

So in the what around 10 years the game has been out there has been around 40 biljon stars explored.

Thats just amazing. Are this numbers correct ?
I mean it seems alot.

[Laurreth]

Originally posted by Nenne.:

Are this numbers correct ?

No :-P The game hasn't been out 10 years and there's rather below 1% discovered.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by Nenne.:

Are this numbers correct ?

Most probably the numbers are incorrect. The number of stars is not 40 billion, but more than 400 billion of star systems. And the discovered systems the last year were 0.036%.

[Coq_Pwner]

^ really?
Does this mean that some systems are invisible on the map until you fly close to them?
Or is the map just so freaking huge people haven't managed to get to most places yet?
How exactly does it work?

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by CoqPwner:

Or is the map just so freaking huge people haven't managed to get to most places yet?
How exactly does it work?

Open the Galaxy map, zoom all the way out... ;)

[Petrus Magnus]

Think you missed a few decimal places. Its approximately 400 billion systems but less then 0.1% have been discovered.

As of the beginning of this year the the Devs put out an infographic that stated 0.042% had been explored.

As of now crowd sourced Elite Dangerous Star Map (EDSM) puts it at ~55 million systems/0.013827% of the galaxy explored:

Originally posted by EDSM:

0.013827% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM, it will take 37,088 years, 8 months, 11 days to discover it entirely.

[hrez]

There is nothing to explore

[Nenne.]

ahhh ok
My numbers was wrong.

i did think that 40 biljon stars discovered was a bit much.

[Petrus Magnus]

Originally posted by CoqPwner:

How exactly does it work?

The systems are procedurally generated based on a lose extrapolation of scientific observation/predictions of what should/could be in the area.

If you what a summary (skip to 11min):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3nhCykZNw

[van Leeuwenhoek's mustache]

Originally posted by ꜱᴘɪʟᴄᴀᴘᴇꜱ:

There is nothing to explore

That's a puzzling statement, coming from a player who has spent over 2400 hours playing E:D and has hundreds of screenshots of planets / moons / POIs / etc.

Surely you meant to say "there is nothing LEFT to explore" 😅 (that would still be incorrect, though)

Anyway, as others have said, not even 1% of star systems have been explored in the 6 years E:D has been around. I doubt we'll ever run out of undiscovered systems, fret not.

Yes, some people will complain that star systems in E:D are just different combinations of a common set of bodies... so the variation between them is kind of "fake".

To those people I say: what do you expect? 400 billion handcrafted systems? 🤣

Do you know how much time, effort and resources it takes to develop a single, explorable handcrafted system? Multiply that by 400 billion, then realize how it might be "problematic" to achieve such a feat within a lifetime ( let alone a year or two 🤣🤣🤣🤣).

Sure, explorable planets / moons in E:D share common generic elements, for the most part, and only very few of them have rather unique locations (like guardian / Thargoid sites).

Sure, they're barren and mostly empty, but...

SPOILER ALERT:

- This is about the most thrilling the Moon gets these days:
https://stnicks.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/earthrise.jpg

- Mars is super lively too:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/1f/55/731f55b90a452f13e6b8983df1bd9860.jpg

- What about Venus?
https://i2.wp.com/astrobob.areavoices.com/files/2014/03/Venus-surface-Venera.jpg

- What about Titan?
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/courses-images/wp-content/uploads/sites/1095/2016/11/03155755/OSC_Astro_12_02_TitanSurfc.jpg

https://www.clarksvilleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/NASAs-Cassini-spacecraft-discovers-deep-canyons-on-Saturns-moon-Titan-filled-with-Hydrocarbons.jpg

- What about Pluto?
https://blogs.nasa.gov/pluto/wp-content/uploads/sites/253/2015/10/pluto-heart.png

- What about Europa?
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/europa_atomic_clock.jpg


I don't know about you, but I think that most planets / moons in E:D are as barren as these.
Also, since we still haven't found life forms / alien structures on other planets, I'd say that E:D still has the upper hand in this regard.

On the other hand, sure, I'd like to have atmospheric planet exploration in E:D, I'd also like to have way more "planetary gameplay", so to speak.
For instance, be able to help factions take/defend outposts / bases / mines, go on surveying expeditions, locate stuff hidden in caves/structures, etc. (I'm talking stuff that you can only do on SRV / foot)

In other words, I'd love for E:D to give me compelling reasons to want to land on planets (other than mining for certain materials, visiting engineers, hunting for guardian sites or just doing some good old sandbox exploration).

Bottom line: Try to understand why asking for handcrafted worlds in E:D is problematic and give Fdevs some credit for what they've achieved so far (without abusing our wallets).
Also, maybe try to help them make Odyssey as awesome as it can be.

[Rhudda]

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

Originally posted by EDSM:

0.013827% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM, it will take 37,088 years, 8 months, 11 days to discover it entirely.

This is probably assuming a more or less constant rate of discovery, but imagine the amount of unexplored systems reaching, say, the triple digits, and then imagine having to hunt for those last few systems. How would you even find them? So it's probably safe to say that the number on EDSM is on the low side. ;)

[Ratt]

Originally posted by Hagrid Glodson:

This is probably assuming a more or less constant rate of discovery, but imagine the amount of unexplored systems reaching, say, the triple digits, and then imagine having to hunt for those last few systems. How would you even find them? So it's probably safe to say that the number on EDSM is on the low side. ;)

Consider: at some point well before 37,000 years from now, the servers shut off, slowing the rate of exploration to zero and increasing the time left to discover the whole galaxy to infinity.

Consider also: someone with access to the ED servers runs a script that makes all systems already explored by default, flags each system in the galaxy as explored, or spawns a player ship in each system, in descending order of time-efficiency, in any case exploring the galaxy well before 37,000 years from now if allowed to complete.

Naive extrapolation is the best non-buzzkilling estimation method available.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by ꜱᴘɪʟᴄᴀᴘᴇꜱ:

There is nothing to explore

I assume that you already have found Raxxla?

Or who knows what else is waiting out there? Like electric storms:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1979902428

[Hawk]

Wrong.


There's less than 0.01% discovered. And that's including jonked systems

[Realm Walker]

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

Think you missed a few decimal places. Its approximately 400 billion systems but less then 0.1% have been discovered.

As of the beginning of this year the the Devs put out an infographic that stated 0.042% had been explored.

As of now crowd sourced Elite Dangerous Star Map (EDSM) puts it at ~55 million systems/0.013827% of the galaxy explored:

Originally posted by EDSM:

0.013827% of the galaxy has been discovered on EDSM, it will take 37,088 years, 8 months, 11 days to discover it entirely.

But does EDSM registrate every system discovered automatically or just those told to be discovered?

[Petrus Magnus]

Originally posted by Crunch:

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

Think you missed a few decimal places. Its approximately 400 billion systems but less then 0.1% have been discovered.

As of the beginning of this year the the Devs put out an infographic that stated 0.042% had been explored.

As of now crowd sourced Elite Dangerous Star Map (EDSM) puts it at ~55 million systems/0.013827% of the galaxy explored:

But does EDSM registrate every system discovered automatically or just those told to be discovered?

EDSM is crowd sourced as already stated so no it does not have every system discovered automatically add.

It however gives context to the Dev numbers eg. what exactly do they mean by "0.042% of the galaxy explored"?

Was the system merely entered by a commander?
Was it turn in to Universal Cartographic?
Are they even talking about systems?

The infographic in question:
https://community-cdn.frontier.co.uk/elite-dangerous/5thanniv/ED_infographic_1920x1080.jpg