Hot Spots

[BaTLeZone]

With the new patch does this mean the single hot spots have gotten a buff from a waste of time to mediocre or average?

Would this improve Dual hot spot to better than average?

Just wondering Cheers

[Edelweiss ✿]

/r/EliteMiners reports mining at any location is amazingly worse now since the patch, with people spending hours and getting next to nothing

[<Caeris↝]

Some hotspots were overlapping for a long time and this means you could get very much more rare commodities than on a single one (double your income).

With the new patch they nerfed it. Even if you try to farm on an overlapping hotspot, you´re going to get the same amount as on a non-overlapping hotpsot.

[Ronald]

Originally posted by Caeris:

Even if you try to farm on an overlapping hotspot, you´re going to get the same amount as on a non-overlapping hotpsot. :WhiteWolfInterset:

not true at all. overlapping still provide a higher yield than non-overlapping hotspots, just less than before. non-overlapping were buffed.

[HamakiBCN2]

Originally posted by Ronald:

Originally posted by Caeris:

Even if you try to farm on an overlapping hotspot, you´re going to get the same amount as on a non-overlapping hotpsot. :WhiteWolfInterset:

not true at all. overlapping still provide a higher yield than non-overlapping hotspots, just less than before. non-overlapping were buffed.

That's what the changelog says. But we shouldn't take changelogs as if they were Gospel. As edelweis mentions preliminary testing seems to point to a more severe effect than that. Although of course at this point it's only anecdotal evidence, it'll be a few days until there's enough data points to know for sure.

The best advice for OP at this point, or anyone who's asking the same question as OP, is to test it themselves. 100 prospectors thrown randomly in an LTD3, 100 prospectors thrown also randomly in the center of a single Hotspot, take note of all results and percentages and compare. Repeat process several times until you have enough data to hazard a guess... and there'll be your answer.

Besides, arguably the most severe nerf for LTD mining may come from the changes to the Demand mechanic, not the Hotspot overlaps. If what the changelog says it's true, it may be the end of those 1.7 million selling prices.

[<Caeris↝]

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[Ronald]

Originally posted by HamakiBCN2:

As edelweis mentions preliminary testing seems to point to a more severe effect than that. Although of course at this point it's only anecdotal evidence, it'll be a few days until there's enough data points to know for sure.

id rarther believe the patchnotes and wait till things settle after a patch as usual.

far too many jumping to conclusions at the moment. time will tell

[Atretador]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/hrnt1d/i_guess_we_are_mining_painite_now/

this one is looking decent

[HamakiBCN2]

Originally posted by Ronald:

Originally posted by HamakiBCN2:

As edelweis mentions preliminary testing seems to point to a more severe effect than that. Although of course at this point it's only anecdotal evidence, it'll be a few days until there's enough data points to know for sure.

id rarther believe the patchnotes and wait till things settle after a patch as usual.

far too many jumping to conclusions at the moment. time will tell

Suit yourself...Elite has a bit of a history with patch notes not reflecting reality whatsoever. Most recent example was the first attempt at fixing the eggxploit, with the patch notes saying that the issue was totally fixed, when in reality, the update did absolutely nothing.

As a result of these dirt of situations, which have happened countless times over the years, I'd rather believe those who actually test the effects of an update. Although one thing we agree on: more time is required to be able to reach a definitive conclusion.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Single hotspots are supposed to be better, but a lot of people are reporting everything involving at least LTD is just borked. I had fine luck on LTD/Vopal just after the update rolled out, but haven't tested again for a few hours. (I mine new hotspots every time, usually in uncharted systems)

[BaTLeZone]

Does the size of the hot spot make any diff to how much is there?

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by BaTLeZone:

Does the size of the hot spot make any diff to how much is there?

Ignoring the potential Hotspot nerf bug being tentatively reported (Could just be new mechanics we don't understand yet, but could be and is most likely just a bug) the answer to your question is:

Yes, but indirectly. Smaller hotspots have smaller radii, which means less actual area in which the optimal concentration exists.

[Cosmicat]

Well, there's a bug with surface deposits not releasing after a core split, so that's a thing. I tried for a bit at L 119-33 10 A where there's a double LTD and Tritium overlap. My first rock was an LTD core and I thought great, but couldn't shoot off the surface deposits, and found like 25% of the Tritium as I had in the same spot before the patch. Seems like a lot fewer SSDs and not a lot of random Trit content. The most I found was 10%. I gave up after a couple of hours. I was trying to fill my carrier's hold before setting off into the black, but that's not gonna happen with these yields.

[Jankules]

The minining is broken...the patch will fix it.At current state dont bother with it you wont get any credits...do something else in meanwhile

[NobodysLaw]

Originally posted by Jankules:

The minining is broken...the patch will fix it.At current state dont bother with it you wont get any credits...do something else in meanwhile

Well Painite is back on the table because of that. Still good to farm and sell/farm systems are not that far from each other

[Soulhavoc666]

Imo this nerf was spot on, it was way too easy to get billions of credits in couple hours even when not using fighter bug. Mining is still in good spot for making credits, been mining after the nerf and making bit over 200mil/h from takeoff to sell.