How are CMDR's finding Guardian ruins?

[Vuud]

Are people just flying randomly over planet surfaces in realspace for hours on end to find them? I'd like to know what clues there are for finding Guardian and Thargoid sites on planets. I know 'goids like ammonia world but that's about it. I don't want to just look them up online because I find that a little cheaty.

[CaptainKINGPIN]

Guardian ruins and sites appear on the nav panel when you are within 1000ls of the planet they reside on.

You just need to criss cross the system once or twice to see if there is one there.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

There's some "Hacks" you can use to find them, All Legal of course, all even without 3rd party tools.

First of all, you have to know the best systems to find them in. Large, complicated systems with many stars, ideally many Brown dwarfs with Landfall moons. Guardians love brown dwarfs for some reason.

When you find such a system, check nav panel, any guardian ruins with 1,000LS will be on the nav panel. To scan for further guardian ruins, you have to "Sweep" The orbital plane. Roll your ship so that you're perpendicular with the horizontal orbit plane (IE: The orbit lines would cut your ship in half) and start to pitch slowly, highlighting any planets. The Guardian ruins will be able to be selected like this, even if they're over 200,000Ls away.

[John Titor]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Guardians love brown dwarfs for some reason.

It was because they had lower body temps and were more comfortable in cooler environments, if I remember correctly.

[Vuud]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

There's some "Hacks" you can use to find them, All Legal of course, all even without 3rd party tools.

First of all, you have to know the best systems to find them in. Large, complicated systems with many stars, ideally many Brown dwarfs with Landfall moons. Guardians love brown dwarfs for some reason.

When you find such a system, check nav panel, any guardian ruins with 1,000LS will be on the nav panel. To scan for further guardian ruins, you have to "Sweep" The orbital plane. Roll your ship so that you're perpendicular with the horizontal orbit plane (IE: The orbit lines would cut your ship in half) and start to pitch slowly, highlighting any planets. The Guardian ruins will be able to be selected like this, even if they're over 200,000Ls away.

Do thargoid bases show up in the nav panel too? It's been a long time since I've been to one, but I remember they didn't.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by Vuud:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

There's some "Hacks" you can use to find them, All Legal of course, all even without 3rd party tools.

First of all, you have to know the best systems to find them in. Large, complicated systems with many stars, ideally many Brown dwarfs with Landfall moons. Guardians love brown dwarfs for some reason.

When you find such a system, check nav panel, any guardian ruins with 1,000LS will be on the nav panel. To scan for further guardian ruins, you have to "Sweep" The orbital plane. Roll your ship so that you're perpendicular with the horizontal orbit plane (IE: The orbit lines would cut your ship in half) and start to pitch slowly, highlighting any planets. The Guardian ruins will be able to be selected like this, even if they're over 200,000Ls away.

Do thargoid bases show up in the nav panel too? It's been a long time since I've been to one, but I remember they didn't.

I don't think so. But Thargoid bases are much easier to see from orbit.

[Gropax]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

There's some "Hacks" you can use to find them, All Legal of course, all even without 3rd party tools.

First of all, you have to know the best systems to find them in. Large, complicated systems with many stars, ideally many Brown dwarfs with Landfall moons. Guardians love brown dwarfs for some reason.

When you find such a system, check nav panel, any guardian ruins with 1,000LS will be on the nav panel. To scan for further guardian ruins, you have to "Sweep" The orbital plane. Roll your ship so that you're perpendicular with the horizontal orbit plane (IE: The orbit lines would cut your ship in half) and start to pitch slowly, highlighting any planets. The Guardian ruins will be able to be selected like this, even if they're over 200,000Ls away.

Wrong

look at the galaxy map and have it show civilaztions and under that select guardians. now all systems with guardian ruins in them show up on your galaxy map. fly to one and when you are within 1000ls of a planet with them they will show up on the nav panel. takes about 10 mins to find one. the big 3 that have the blue prints were given to us in a message from one of the engineers.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by Gropax:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

There's some "Hacks" you can use to find them, All Legal of course, all even without 3rd party tools.

First of all, you have to know the best systems to find them in. Large, complicated systems with many stars, ideally many Brown dwarfs with Landfall moons. Guardians love brown dwarfs for some reason.

When you find such a system, check nav panel, any guardian ruins with 1,000LS will be on the nav panel. To scan for further guardian ruins, you have to "Sweep" The orbital plane. Roll your ship so that you're perpendicular with the horizontal orbit plane (IE: The orbit lines would cut your ship in half) and start to pitch slowly, highlighting any planets. The Guardian ruins will be able to be selected like this, even if they're over 200,000Ls away.

Wrong

look at the galaxy map and have it show civilaztions and under that select guardians. now all systems with guardian ruins in them show up on your galaxy map. fly to one and when you are within 1000ls of a planet with them they will show up on the nav panel. takes about 10 mins to find one. the big 3 that have the blue prints were given to us in a message from one of the engineers.

This isn't 100% accurate. Go ahead and compare the Cannon Map to the in-game map civilization filter. Then issue your apology.

There's also over 20 Guardian Structure sites, not just the 3 Ram Tah Listed. I've visited all of the logged ones and discovered 4 previously unknown sites. Only one had an Acient terminal though.

Also, if you read OP's question, he wants to know how they are first discovered. The methodology of which predates the Galaxy map filters. So in your rush to be right on the internet, you made some collossal blunders.

[Gropax]

no that is how i found the 5 i used to get materials not the big 3 that Ram Tah listed. now say you're sorry. you can find Thargoid places the same way. if i went to every brown dwarf in the area i would have been looking for months before i found one. learn to use the galaxy map it will save you time.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by Gropax:

no that is how i found the 5 i used to get materials not the big 3 that Ram Tah listed. now say you're sorry. you can find Thargoid places the same way. if i went to every brown dwarf in the area i would have been looking for months before i found one. learn to use the galaxy map it will save you time.

Right, but OP's question wasn't one of practicality, it was one of curiosity. OP wanted to know how people first discovered these sites. I assume he wants to attempt to discover one of his own just because the Exploration bug bites some stronger than others.

[ZombieHunter]

I was out exploring and accidentally found them in 'Guardian' systems. They were pretty cool until I realized all the fuss was really about crafting more crap for my ship. After coming to that realization I headed back out into the black.

They are very annoying to explore in your SRV. Too many hills and variations that the SRV can't handle. It would be nice to have a smaller planet-bound sub FSD pilotable ship for exploring as well as your SRV.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Yeah, some are nightmarish to land at in anything larger than an ASP. I hear coming in a DBX or Dolphin is much smarter.

I think they're really cool personally. The kind of stuff the game really needed LIke 4 years ago. And of course, there's the grind that ruins it.

I had fun exploring every site, but on a repeate journey to finish off getting all blueprints to finish the guardian item catallogue, even spamming the same sites over and over was irritating. I hope the Guardian Vessel Blueprints are found in a whole new sector of space. I'd even be cool with it if you had to get segments in the really far guardian sites, but I'm an explorer at heart. Don't let the combat rank fool you lol.

[Rick]

Originally posted by Torquemada:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Guardians love brown dwarfs for some reason.

It was because they had lower body temps and were more comfortable in cooler environments, if I remember correctly.

The opposite, Guardians came from high temperature low gravity environments. So if they liked drown dwarfs, it was for another reason.

[Vuud]

Ok, I had no idea how far out the Guardian systems are. I scanned around in the galaxy map and found some about 700 LY out from the bubble. Making my way there in the old DBX.