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Nosada_Kage Jun 15, 2020 @ 6:09pm
Disruptive Mass - What's the problem here?
I was traveling in supercruise to this station, when I suddenly got dropped out near what appears to be an asteroid field. It doesn't seem that close, but I can't supercruise now. If I want to travel to this station, I have to do it at slow speed. That seems pretty tedious and annoying. So what's the deal? Is it supposed to be like this?

Video here:
https://youtu.be/Igtix7DZLKs
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morgoth13 Jun 15, 2020 @ 6:22pm 
Yeah you're definitely too close to those asteroids. If you can come in from a different angle you might be able to get close enough for a standard supercruise drop, you are flying along right at the edge of them. Is it a ring you can see in supercruise or an invisible asteroid field? Or you've maybe found a station that happens to be in the perfect spot. At least it's not that far to go. 45 km doesn't take too long at full throttle and full engine strength with a boost now and then.
morph113 Jun 15, 2020 @ 6:26pm 
It's indeed because you are too close to the asteroid belt. Your approach angle wasn't correct and as you got too close to the belt it dropped you out of supercruise. With the right approach angle you can drop in at less than 10 km distance from the station, just like with any other station.

In the situation you were in, you should have pointed your ship upwards when starting supercruise to get a bit of distance from the asteroid belt and then realign for a better approach angle to get to the station.
Nosada_Kage Jun 15, 2020 @ 6:39pm 
So hypothetically speaking, if you were to get dropped out of supercruise dead in the middle of a dense asteroid belt, you would be screwed right? Could take 30 minutes or even longer to get out?
Last edited by Nosada_Kage; Jun 15, 2020 @ 6:40pm
MyProfile Jun 15, 2020 @ 6:57pm 
Nah, just get your bearings and boost away from the rocks, when you see you aren't masslocked anymore you can jump back into supercruise.

Thanks for the video that was great lolz.
Last edited by MyProfile; Jun 15, 2020 @ 7:00pm
Nosada_Kage Jun 15, 2020 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by MyProfile:
Nah, just get your bearings and boost away from the rocks, when you see you aren't masslocked anymore you can jump back into supercruise.

Thanks for the video that was great lolz.
My mass lock indicator never went on though...
Last edited by Nosada_Kage; Jun 15, 2020 @ 7:50pm
Elitewrecker PT Jun 16, 2020 @ 1:50am 
Did you try pointing up or down from the asteroid plane? Instead of at the station?
HamakiBCN2 Jun 16, 2020 @ 2:15am 
Originally posted by Nosada_Kage:
Originally posted by MyProfile:
Nah, just get your bearings and boost away from the rocks, when you see you aren't masslocked anymore you can jump back into supercruise.

Thanks for the video that was great lolz.
My mass lock indicator never went on though...

The indicator doesn't go on because it's not mass lock that's the problem: When in normal space, you are far away enough form the asteroids to engage supercruise. please observe that not only the light doesn't go on, but it actually lets you engage supercruise. If mass lock was the issue, it wouldn't engage at all.

The problem is that once you get to supercruise, it drops you inmediately back to normal space, as if you had hit an invisible wall.

You see, if you try to get too close to a planetary body, or asteroid belt, or ring, the ship will automatically drop you out of supercruise. Notice, that's not the same as mass lock, as it lets you engage supercruise again once the FSD cooldown is complete, even if you didn't move at all.

You see, in the video, every time you jump to supercruise, you're STILL FACING THE ASTEROID BELT. which means that, every time you jump to supercruise, the proximity override drops you back.

Basically what you're doing is trying to walk through a glass wall. https://youtu.be/dLeLgitVIl8

What you should be doing is face AWAY from the Asteroird belt, THEN jump to supercruise, and once you have a clear course between you and your target, with nothing in between, THEN you turn to face your target.

Just in case: you DON'T NEED TO FACE YOUR TARGET to engage supercruise. You only have to face your target to engage hyperjump, which is a jump to another system.


Last edited by HamakiBCN2; Jun 16, 2020 @ 2:19am
SeraphinicIna Jun 16, 2020 @ 2:21am 
Point your ship away from the belt/planet and boost (into empty space) away until you are not mass locked anymore (until the blue light in the bottom right vanishes). Then you can use SC again. Also you don't have to be suprised if you drop out from SC when you try to use it through an asteroid belt.
Last edited by SeraphinicIna; Jun 16, 2020 @ 2:23am
DextrousWeevil Jun 16, 2020 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by NobodysLaw:
Point your ship away from the belt/planet and boost (into empty space) away until you are not mass locked anymore (until the blue light in the bottom right vanishes). Then you can use SC again. Also you don't have to be suprised if you drop out from SC when you try to use it through an asteroid belt.
^^^ This.

Point the nose 90 degrees away from planetary ring and boost until clear of ring and mass lock is no longer lit hit supercruise while still facing 90 degrees and loop back towards station.
Nosada_Kage Jun 16, 2020 @ 8:54am 
I have more questions then; 1. Why isn't there an indicator for this type of disruptive mass like there is for mass lock?
2. If you get dropped out of supercruise for this reason and you find yourself in the middle of an asteroid field, are you just forced to waste the next hour trying to get out (if you're not close to the edge)? I've seen this happen on a youtube video...
Elitewrecker PT Jun 16, 2020 @ 8:57am 
You shouldn't find yourself dropping into the middle of an asteroid field. It shouldn't take more than a minute, if that, to get out of the asteroid mass-lock.
Didn't know you could get disruptive mass from asteroids though, thought it was like stations where you're either locked or not.
Last edited by Elitewrecker PT; Jun 16, 2020 @ 8:59am
HamakiBCN2 Jun 16, 2020 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Nosada_Kage:
I have more questions then; 1. Why isn't there an indicator for this type of disruptive mass like there is for mass lock?

Oh, you mean like a massive DROPPING-TOO CLOSE sign in your status screen, like the one seen in your video @0:20? yeah, why don't we have one of those? :steammocking:

2. If you get dropped out of supercruise for this reason and you find yourself in the middle of an asteroid field, are you just forced to waste the next hour trying to get out (if you're not close to the edge)? I've seen this happen on a youtube video...

I don't know what videos you may have been watching, but asteriods belts are pretty thin. They're never more than a few Km thick, meaning you can cross them entirely in less than a minute.
Last edited by HamakiBCN2; Jun 16, 2020 @ 9:03am
HamakiBCN2 Jun 16, 2020 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:
You shouldn't find yourself dropping into the middle of an asteroid field. It shouldn't take more than a minute, if that, to get out of the asteroid mass-lock.
Didn't know you could get disruptive mass from asteroids though, thought it was like stations where you're either locked or not.

Pretty sure the disruptive mass wasn't from the asteroid belt, but from the ships that can be seen in the radar. For a sidewinder, pretty much everything will be a disruptive mass :steammocking:
morph113 Jun 16, 2020 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Nosada_Kage:
I have more questions then; 1. Why isn't there an indicator for this type of disruptive mass like there is for mass lock?

Well for planets (the non-landable ones) and stars there is an indicator (a white circle) around the object to let you know the exclusion zone at which point it drops you out of supercruise. For asteroid belts this isn't needed as it only triggers if you get really really close at which point nobody should be surprised that it drops you out of supercruise. So just be aware that you cannot fly through a planets rings in supercruise.

Originally posted by Nosada_Kage:
2. If you get dropped out of supercruise for this reason and you find yourself in the middle of an asteroid field, are you just forced to waste the next hour trying to get out (if you're not close to the edge)? I've seen this happen on a youtube video...

Not sure what you have seen, but no this does NOT happen unless there is a glitch, which I have yet to see myself. You will always drop in at a safe distance to asteroids without being masslocked so you can immediately go back into supercruise (while pointing your ship away from the asteroids).

At worst you will be somewhere near the "top" of the belt so it takes you maybe 30 seconds of boosting away from the asteroids to lose the masslock and be able to go into supercruise. There is like no way you will be just stuck there for 30 minutes unless you do encounter some sort of bug but even then, asteroid belts aren't that thick in the game that you can't fly through them in a reasonable amount of time unless you fly horizontally along the belt in which case you never escape because you are going in a circle :)
Last edited by morph113; Jun 16, 2020 @ 11:21am
Dolphin Bottlenose Jun 16, 2020 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by morph113:
There is like no way you will be just stuck there for 30 minutes unless you do encounter some sort of bug
Or abuse the Supercruise Assist by dropping with an unsafe speed. There were cases when people flew through a whole station, dropping like that.
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