Can't find Fissures.

[Luigi]

I'm in a hotspot for low temp diamonds. I'm trying to find Fissures though and I can't find any I've been flying around for hours and it's really getting dull.

It's my first time mining normally I do combat, but I wanted to try something new.

[Moniboi]

Make sure to actually find an asteroid with a core. First use a pulse wave scanner and go to an asteroid that shows up as very yellow. Fire a prospector limpet at an asteroid and target the limpet. It will show if it has a core. If it doesn't move on to another yellow asteroid. They need to be really bright yellow, btw. If an asteroid has a core, you'll get a bunch of fissures to become visible.

[Stelar Seven]

Single hot spots are pretty rare still. Be sure you have prospector limpets, collection limpets, and pulse wave analyzers.

If you go to Borann A2 you can find a triple hotspot overlap which will give you a lot more chances.

Finally, while deep core is more fun, you can get money much faster with lasers and collection limpets. Same location.

Prospect every rock in the overlap, mine anything over 10% LTD.

The 2019 video here explains core mining, the 2020 shows the laser mining.

Core Mining
https://youtu.be/8E70KlYbY2U

Surface Mining
https://youtu.be/jTXQCQL_om8

Also, everyone says mining is super easy, and the base ideas are fairly straight forward, but getting high yields takes practice and patience.

[Toastie Buns]

How is randomly shooting prospectors 'practice and patience'?

LTD mining is so simple even a half retarded seal could pull it off and that's impressive in its own merit because seals have incredible difficulty using WASD

[Stelar Seven]

Originally posted by Toastie Buns:

How is randomly shooting prospectors 'practice and patience'?

LTD mining is so simple even a half retarded seal could pull it off and that's impressive in its own merit because seals have incredible difficulty using WASD

If that's your technique then your results will be mediocre.

Skill recognizes rocks that will kill your limpets, how to move efficiently through the area you are in, avoiding backtracks managing multiple search limpets.

It's like any activity, put in some time, get better at it.

But like any activity it can also be described derisively by folks who choose.

[Toastie Buns]

No rocks kill limpets. If the rock spins quick you just shoot the edge of it
OR
If you find the centre of rotation the asteroid won't slam into your chunks/limpets at all.

I learnt that while unlocking Selene. I wouldn't call it skill though, more like common sense through observation. Just like targeting anything in the local system for a reference point is common sense.

I think you're underestimating retarded seals, sir.

I will give you this though; mining the chunks in a way they go straight into your hatch is skillful.

[Stelar Seven]

No rocks....

Sounds like you haven't seen any spinning on three axis, which tells me you don't mine or don't pay attention.

It's all good, you do you. Folks who want to learn will, others will blow hot air.

[Toastie Buns]

Originally posted by Stelar Seven:

Sounds like you haven't seen any spinning on three axis

That would, quite literally, defy physics. You're thinking of precession. Even still, you can find a surface area of that object that will spin slower than the rest of it.

EDIT: okay, okay, it wouldn't 'defy' it, but you sure as hell don't see asteroids flipping over

EDITEDIT: I tried to load up KSP and get a nice gif of attempting to spin on 3 axis, but guess what? It just looks like rotating around a single axis with a bit of wobble.

[ryszard.tokarczuk]

What helps me, is to switch on "Night Vision" in a "Ship" menu (to the right of pilot seat). This highlights the asteroids and also makes fissures visible. It is hard to describe but they remind me of silver scars on the dark surface of the asteroid. They also may resemble a cobweb/ spiderweb.

This may have been brought also in the videos, but usually "deep core" asteroids have a specific shape and size, depending on type of the field that you are in - metal asteroids looks different from diamonds and void opals, for example.

I have also started mining recently and I can only encourage you to have patience. Using limpets on every "shining" asteroid is not a guarantee of finding fissures - it is better to approach "shinies" and examine their surface (night vision does help me in that tremendously).

I usually go after "single hotspots", because I try to approach mining as a kind of relaxing activity and not a competition :P but I am able to find five or more deep core asteroids in under an hour using the methods above.

Hope this helps!

[Stelar Seven]

Originally posted by Toastie Buns:

Originally posted by Stelar Seven:

Sounds like you haven't seen any spinning on three axis

That would, quite literally, defy physics. You're thinking of precession. Even still, you can find a surface area of that object that will spin slower than the rest of it.

EDIT: okay, okay, it wouldn't 'defy' it, but you sure as hell don't see asteroids flipping over

EDITEDIT: I tried to load up KSP and get a nice gif of attempting to spin on 3 axis, but guess what? It just looks like rotating around a single axis with a bit of wobble.

I don't know why you would bother with KSP,

Suffice to say sit in a belt and you will see some multi axis rotations with irregular surfaces and trying to mine them will cost you limpets.

[Toastie Buns]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2cMmwIKTJM

Watch this. This is precession. This is your 'multi axis rotation'. Note how even though it looks wild when it's rotating around its intermediate, all it's actually doing is wobbling and tracing a circle around a single axis.
If you were mining this rock, you could simply wait until it's at its stable rotation around intermediate and begin mining.

An alternative method would be to go to the far ends and mine. This would (because of its high angular momentum) throw the chunks clear of the rock itself. This is what I do.

In either case, the limpets exploding would be your own fault.
PS: Try to imagine a sphere rotating on its X and Y axis at the same time. You'll pretty soon realise that it can't do that. The only asteroids you have seen do this are elongated, unstable rotations.

To better visualise this: Imagine a long asteroid rotating, it's going to cut a circle through space with its peaks, yeah? That is how you work out where your ship should be. You'll be mining the peaks on every rotation. In this light, it doesn't matter how fast the asteroid spins, you will ALWAYS be safe from collisions.

You wanna know the last time I killed a limpet? I shot a prospector and it killed both of them.

[Stelar Seven]

It's a block rotating, me I'll pick a different rock and be there further in while you play with one.

What you think it proves is beyond me but nice flex or whatever.

[Toastie Buns]

I'm just passing on what I know. If you want to see it as a flex, whatever. It's your choice if you read Steam forum posts in an angry tone.

I lost a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of limpets when I first started and I tried to figure out how to keep them safe.

Spherical asteroids were easy, there's an easy to find center of rotation. Preceeding asteroids, I had to figure out how to treat them and I decided to use the 'mine the peaks' approach.

Since then, I only lose limpets to stupidity, like deploying them when sitting above another asteroid or leaving one behind because the others told me there were no valid collection targets. Or recently....shooting them with prospector limpets. Rocks don't kill limpets (except when chunks get stuck inside the asteroid, but I call that a bug) Core mining is an exception, but you're creating a debris field so it kinda is what it is.

You gotta admit though; the skill ceiling for laser mining is not high. Players are coming into the game and earning billions in their first week. Even without the triple, they'd earn millions.

[Lich Lord]

I run both on my Conda. I deep core and if it doesnt have a core i laser it out so i am constantly mining. Easy 100mill in an hour.

[Bexx]

I started mining with Diamondback Explorer. It takes time and patience to learn how to recognise the roids that have a core.
Later one might want to have a ship, that is capable of using both ways of mining. With my Python I use laser mining in Borann triple LTD hotspot and keep my eyes open for core roids.
That's pretty effective.
To learn how to find core roids it's highly recommended to start in Borann triple LTD hotspot like others said. Nothing more depressing flying around half an hour finding nothing.

Good luck!

[Stelar Seven]

Originally posted by Toastie Buns:

I'm just passing on what I know. If you want to see it as a flex, whatever. It's your choice if you read Steam forum posts in an angry tone.

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You gotta admit though; the skill ceiling for laser mining is not high. Players are coming into the game and earning billions in their first week. Even without the triple, they'd earn millions.

Eh,, you introduced yourself by telling me there axis rotation is impossible and that mining has no skill. If you expected warm hugs after you have an odd way of looking for them.

For three axis go ahead and get a ship, sit in space, pitch up, then roll left then yaw, three axis. I've seen wicked spin on some very irregular rocks.

As for new players making millions, sure, with the payouts where they are even bad mining pays, but I've also taught people to mine, and there is a curve and new miners often get it very wrong.

Is it brain rocketry? Nope, this is a videogame none of the activities are particularly hard, but there is some skill to a lot of them.