Impossible Interdiction Escape

[JBM]

I've been away from ED for over a year. I knew that coming back to it would be another learning curve.

10 hours back into solo play (I don't play in open) and everything is going well. I've reacquainted myself with the few ships I have, and i'm running delivery missions to help with relearning some of the basics, as well as earn a few credits and increase my rank/reputation with the Federation.

I've encountered tons of interdictions, and always managed to escape them without problems. But while running a mission in my T7 earlier, I received an "Incoming Enemy Alert" message/email, shortly followed by what appeared to be a bugged interdiction process...

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Lining up with the escape vector was fine. Just the way it has always been before. But this time, when filling the blue side of the vector target, nothing happened. The blue side stayed filled for several seconds, then suddenly the escape vector reset, and I had to try and line up with the vector AGAIN. This time, the vector was moving left and right so fast, that it was impossible to line up with it. Next thing is, i'm being pulled from supercruise and the inevitable happens. My T7 is blown to bits.

So what happened here? Why was this interdiction so different to every other one i've encountered?

[Laurreth]

Sounds like a bug, or maybe simply a network hiccup screwing things up.

[JBM]

Originally posted by Shadowdancer:

Sounds like a bug, or maybe simply a network hiccup screwing things up.

Possibly. I did wonder this at the time. Either way, it cost me something like 1.8million to get my ship back.

[Laurreth]

You can file a support ticket to be reimbursed. Probably won't be on top of support's priority pile though. Not that it takes forever to just earn those credits again.

[JBM]

Yeah I still have 90mil so i'm not too bothered about the credits, and i'm not really planning to invest in more ships at this stage while i'm still re-learning things. If we were talking different figures then I would have considered it. Still frustrating, all the same.

[HamakiBCN2]

One thing though:

Originally posted by Jim Bob:

Next thing is, i'm being pulled from supercruise and the inevitable happens. My T7 is blown to bits.

Offtopic here, but if you think that losing an interdiction means to "inevitable" blow ups, you probably should take a good at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh9AWV_BWo0&t=23s

[JBM]

Originally posted by HamakiBCN2:

One thing though:

Originally posted by Jim Bob:

Next thing is, i'm being pulled from supercruise and the inevitable happens. My T7 is blown to bits.

Offtopic here, but if you think that losing an interdiction means to "inevitable" blow ups, you probably should take a good at this:

One thing though:

...Maybe read the original post before commenting?

[Reggit]

The T7 is your problem Cmdr - can be hard to win against a more maneuverable ship.
As HamakiBCN2 said - decent shields - submit and high wake.
Even if your lined up with the vector, if the enemy is also lined up with their vector.....Nothing happens.
You HAVE to spend more time aligned with the vector than your enemy....And that can be very tricky in a T7 - This is why most Cmdrs will just submit.
I doubt this was a bug - more likely just a high ranked NPC.
If you like OP - join me in Open and we can practice interdicting each other? Player interdictions tend to be ALOT harder than NPC's....and it takes a little practice!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2074972006
Yes - I spend alot of time in my T7

[Exocet]

Happens to be interdicted by several ai in a row, when sometimes they kind of line up in your back and you suffer following interdictions at the moment you get out of the previous one.

Only one time I suffered an interdiction which I could apparently not counter, though being in the escape vector : the blue gauge wasn't filling. The only one time I encountered an aggressive player whom mere destroyed me in a snap.

Your case is probably a bug, though some ai can be very hard to counter, since I assume you checked if you've been destroyed by a player.

[Reggit]

Also worth mentioning (in a effort to explain the mechanics)
If both Cmdrs are good at interdicion - I've seen interdictions go on for close to 15 minutes!

[Laurreth]

Originally posted by Tigger:

The T7 is your problem Cmdr - can be hard to win against a more maneuverable ship.

No, the ship is not the limiting factor. You have to do something really wrong to lose a properly working interdiction against any AI in a T-7. It's a highly manoeuvrable ship.

[JBM]

Originally posted by Tigger:

The T7 is your problem Cmdr - can be hard to win against a more maneuverable ship.
As HamakiBCN2 said - decent shields - submit and high wake.
Even if your lined up with the vector, if the enemy is also lined up with their vector.....Nothing happens.
You HAVE to spend more time aligned with the vector than your enemy....And that can be very tricky in a T7 - This is why most Cmdrs will just submit.
I doubt this was a bug - more likely just a high ranked NPC.
If you like OP - join me in Open and we can practice interdicting each other? Player interdictions tend to be ALOT harder than NPC's....and it takes a little practice!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2074972006
Yes - I spend alot of time in my T7 :golden:

Could well have been a high ranked NPC, but the whole process of lining up was actually already completed, and then nothing happened for around 10 seconds. The escape vector just stayed there with the blue side maxxed out and the red side minimised. Then suddenly both sides are reset and the interdiction becomes impossible. It was something i've never seen before. I've evaded countless interdictions in my T7 (a mission I did in 3304 running over 200 units of gold springs to mind!) and never found them impossible.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not a sore loser. If I lose something through negligence, stupidity, or because i'm simply not good enough, then fair enough. I've just never waited anywhere near that long with a fully filled escape vector target, let alone have it reset.

The one on one practice sounds fun, but i'm back to work today, so won't be this week i'm afraid! :(

Originally posted by Gargovic:

Happens to be interdicted by several ai in a row, when sometimes they kind of line up in your back and you suffer following interdictions at the moment you get out of the previous one.

Only one time I suffered an interdiction which I could apparently not counter, though being in the escape vector : the blue gauge wasn't filling. The only one time I encountered an aggressive player whom mere destroyed me in a snap.

Your case is probably a bug, though some ai can be very hard to counter, since I assume you checked if you've been destroyed by a player.

Wouldn't have been another player because I only play solo. But I did wonder if maybe I was being interdicted by more than one NPC, hence the escape vector reset? I don't know if that's a thing, but I guess it's possible. If that was the case, then it's a new experience for me, and one worth remembering!

Originally posted by Tigger:

Also worth mentioning (in a effort to explain the mechanics)
If both Cmdrs are good at interdicion - I've seen interdictions go on for close to 15 minutes!

Wow! I've had some that have taken what I would call "some time", but never that long. Are these NPC's or other players? My experience was in solo play.

Originally posted by Shadowdancer:

Originally posted by Tigger:

The T7 is your problem Cmdr - can be hard to win against a more maneuverable ship.

No, the ship is not the limiting factor. You have to do something really wrong to lose a properly working interdiction against any AI in a T-7. It's a highly manoeuvrable ship.

And this is my thinking. I've had countless interdiction attempts in my T7 and never had an issue evading them.

[Laurreth]

Originally posted by Jim Bob:

Wouldn't have been another player because I only play solo. But I did wonder if maybe I was being interdicted by more than one NPC, hence the escape vector reset?

That's possible… I don't think it's supposed to happen, but if two AIs latch onto you at the same time or in succession, the results can be very weird.

[JBM]

Originally posted by Shadowdancer:

Originally posted by Jim Bob:

Wouldn't have been another player because I only play solo. But I did wonder if maybe I was being interdicted by more than one NPC, hence the escape vector reset?

That's possible… I don't think it's supposed to happen, but if two AIs latch onto you at the same time or in succession, the results can be very weird.

I think "AI" is the key factor here. Anything is possible if you let a computer make its own decisions lol

[TheManiac]

I can answer this one:
While grinding for rep, i took severals missions, that led to "planned interdictions".
This is the most ridiculous thing: You master one interdiction, to instantly start the next one.
My personal best was 5(!) interdictions in a row (which i thankfully all evaded).
But intedictions are never simultaneously, only one after the other (instantly)

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Shadowdancer:

T-7. It's a highly manoeuvrable ship.

Have you ever actually flown one? It's about as manoeuvrable as a brick.