Wanting to mine (Coop)

[Equillian]

So the wife and I want to give this game another chance. In an ideal world, we'll be mining. Now, I dont know if Miners need protection, or not, but we'd like to do something together.

I know that you can't trade money (which I understand the reasoning, though I don't agree), but I'd like to be able to share equally if possible.

So here are my questions:

1. Are there non-combat things that we can do together that are fun? (Boom data delivery was decent for me to make money, but she got nothing out of it and it wasn't exactly the most fun.

2. Are there any workarounds for keeping activity payouts equal?

3. We'd really like to mine with roles (think Eve) - So either a miner and a hauler, or a miner and an escort.

Eve REALLY hit close to the mark for me but being so pvp-centric, it's not the game for me. I'm REALLY hoping that Elite can be that game.

Thoughts?

[LocoScratch]

Ok,

mining is a peaceful thing. But it will depend where are you go mining. The payout will depend on what minerals you will get. Search for a prestine belt, go in there but not in the marked spots on the rings(high res, low res, hazard res). These spots are full of pirats and police. Just jump anywhere else in that belt. Then, after both of you jumped into it, there will spawn ONE pirat. Boost 7 km far away from him. Now you can mine foreever without any pirat attack.

You both can participate in Community Goal where you need to deliver stuff to a station for example. You can travel and jump together. I did last week my first CG. Ask the others for help.

Edit:

Roles:
Yeah thats a cool idea. It's possible. One of you can have weapons and the mining laser(s). and do the mining. Your wife can have the collector limpets and the reffinerys installed. She can collect all the stuff, refine it. So yes, that is possible. So now your wife got all the minerals and materials. Minerals can be dropped by her and can be shared. The materials are bound to the ship and can't be shared. They can't be selled, they are only for engineering in the game for making upgrades to the ships.

After refine all the minerals, you have to share them. When you both are full, fly back to the station and sell the stuff. It's not possible that one of you fly back and sell all the stuff. Because money can't be shared, as you said.

You will mine minerals for the most part, materials are not dropped very often. If you don't need them you can through them away.

[Da Boom129]

well i am a miner and houler so i know how you feel and if you go to any major resorce extraction site their will be alot of ai pirates their so yes a fighter would be good to have or just a bunch of missles in all your other spots if you cant aim. nd i have also bin lookinf\g for mining budys if you would like to team up.

[One Eye Jack]

If you stay away from RES sites mining is safe and peaceful.

Just drop in anywhere in a Pristine metallic ring away from RES sites. Typically a bad guy will drop in in a minute or two and scan you. Just fly away from him until he is off of the scanner. You can then mine in peace. You won't be bothered again until you go to sell your haul. You may get interdicted by a bad guy then. Mining together should be safer. You can both mine or one mine and the other fly cover. Several ways you can split the roles up.

[Equillian]

Ok! So here's what I understand:

1: If I'm mining and refining, she just needs an equal sized cargo hold to get an even share. I abandon half the cargo (or just fill us both up) and tada, we're all good.

2: She can fly cover if we don't want to move 7 clicks out from the initial jump in point.

3: There is also a possiblity of interdiction on our way back. So action there as well. To my understanding, there's no way to jump together, so if I as the miner get interdicted, can she get back to me to save me?

[Da Boom129]

yes as a wing you can jump in and help you out if you get intrradicted

[Da Boom129]

i have a viper that i use for cover missions with my freinds if you want to team up

[One Eye Jack]

Originally posted by EQ:

Ok! So here's what I understand:

1: If I'm mining and refining, she just needs an equal sized cargo hold to get an even share. I abandon half the cargo (or just fill us both up) and tada, we're all good.

2: She can fly cover if we don't want to move 7 clicks out from the initial jump in point.

3: There is also a possiblity of interdiction on our way back. So action there as well. To my understanding, there's no way to jump together, so if I as the miner get interdicted, can she get back to me to save me?

Pretty sure you can wing up and jump together but I have done so little multi player I don't know how to.

If no one answers how to do that here pretty soon I will google a bit and see if I can find out how it works.

[LocoScratch]

1. right.
2. She don't need to fly cover. Just fly 7km away from the entry point, and you are safe. It's about 30 sec to 1 min to fly away. But yes, she can fly cover, but only with a good and powerful ship.
3. You can both fly in a wing and there is and option where you can fly exactly the same way as your wing. For instance, your wife get interdicted. You will see a marker in space where she is with the pirat. You can follow and help her.

[FalterXV TTV]

Trade dividends are good, as previous commanders have said, if you both are winged and in the same instance withint 2.5 kilometers of each other. but, it is a small pitance unless you are earning vast ammounts of money. Escorting is always good for dedicated mining vessels, but the escort is usually only to the system where you are selling ur goods. you should not be mining in an active res site, since that is asking for npc or griefer trouble. As far as sharing money between people, you can have one commander jetison 10 canisters at a time, and the other commander pick them up using a limpet for larger profit on their part, it is a good way to keep commanders out of the red, if dangerously close. (though i have not met a commander who actually upholds the friendliness to do so without immediatly taking advandtage of u and blasting u as you go to turn in ur goods.) but, that is my experience. mission's from the mission board can be taken at the same time, by multiple players in a wing. which is a good way to synchronise for cooperation on objectives. there are a whole list of things, i wont get too in depth atm, but ill continue to give tips if u need it.

[Da Boom129]

loco is correct and you can have a wing max of 4 i think so the more people you have the better chances you got if you get intradicted bye a big pirate like an anacanda or somthing

[Agony_Aunt]

For coop mining, you can have one ship, a big slow one that is the collector, and a small nimble one that is the scout, that has propsectors and weapons for defence.

If you get something pretty agile and you can bear it, you might consider looking at Torval's mining lance. Its a bit weaker than a size 1 beam and generates heat quicker, and only available as a fixed weapon, but might be ok on a small ship to use for combat.

I've often thought it might be cool with a wing of 4 to have one guy in a T9 or other large ship, gathering stuff, while guarded in a RES by 3 small ships that do the prospecting and mining.

Once a good rock is identified, all ships fly to it, and start blasting while keeping the pirates away.

Only problem with it is the profit sharing, which is a bit sucky as you the trade bonus isn't great... but on the other hand, you'd be picking up bounties, so not bad.