Robigo runs question

[Elazul]

What is the best ship to use for Robigo to Sothis passenger runs? I don't have any engineering as of yet. Been using a Type-6 with Economy cabins but i'm struggling to fill them all and every guide I've looked at says to "Board Flip" but then I found a post saying board flipping has been removed. Would upgrading to a different ship and upgrading cabin types help? I'm making between 20 and 40 million an hour depending on my luck filling cabins.

[Ryvar]

Caveat: I've grinded 850 million over 9 hours, so while I'm not an expert I definitely know the drill.

TL;DR:
Without engineering use this: https://s.orbis.zone/15_s (4 Jumps per leg).
With FSD engineering use this: https://s.orbis.zone/15_v (3 Jumps @ T4, 2 with good T5).
(Edit) Ridiculous min-max full engineering build: https://s.orbis.zone/1606 (2 jumps).

Running an Anaconda or Beluga means you will be limited to Large Pads, meaning you won't be able to use Robigo Mines, meaning you will be scanned while docking and can no longer run criminal passengers (which is at least 50% of the best-paying passengers) without a world of pain. Getting in and out of Hauser's Reach takes longer, period, even without criminal passengers. Point is: large ships were a non-starter before board flipping was killed off, and *definitely* a non-starter in 3.3 and after.

You might be concerned about the lack of shields on this build, but you'll (almost) never collide with a mining station using auto-dock, and the 2E cabin it removes contributes almost nothing to your income even when you do roll a mission for it. You will never need shields doing this run, but a docking computer will prevent you from dinging your fender on the station and having half your passengers cancel their mission, costing you 10~12 million.

Note that without board flipping you'll no longer be able to insist on >3.5mill missions, sometimes you'll have to accept 2.7 or even 2.0. Even with that, still the only game in town.

[pym]

Making 24 millions each 15 minutes from Hauser's reach to Sothis A5 in a Conda. 18 millions with the cutter. Most of the cabins are first class. Doesn't matter if passengers are illegals, you NEVER get controled. Hope that won't be nerfed but if so players will find something else. Anyway, can't wait for the beyond 4 uptade ! ;)

[Ryvar]

It's possible I didn't fully understand the criminal flagging mechanics when I tried it, but on both my first and second T7 runs out of HR I got scanned, immediately flagged as criminal, and after landing was sent to jail some 50ly from Robigo. Even with board flipping I never would've fully loaded up on non-criminal passengers with >3.5mill missions in every 16-slot cabin. Setting that aside, Python = Robigo Mines = can escape mass lock in under half the time, plus much faster approach and landing. Best roundtrip time, way less headaches overall. And yeah, I know Docking Computer is training wheels for noobs, but in this case it's simply more efficient to use it and not deal with mass cancellations over door dings. The 2E cabin gets you nothing.

Best trip time I've managed is 9 minutes (hit the gravity well vs approach vector curve perfectly both legs), typical is 10.5, normal worst-case (2x interdiction) is 12. 3 minutes in station to get new missions if board flipping, probably 2 without.

25 million average per run (22~28 typical range), probably looking at 15 million average after the patch.

[Elazul]

Originally posted by Ryvar:

Caveat: I've grinded 850 million over 9 hours, so while I'm not an expert I definitely know the drill.

TL;DR:
Without engineering use this: https://s.orbis.zone/15_s (4 Jumps per leg).
With FSD engineering use this: https://s.orbis.zone/15_v (3 Jumps @ T4, 2 with good T5).
(Edit) Ridiculous min-max full engineering build: https://s.orbis.zone/1606 (2 jumps).

Running an Anaconda or Beluga means you will be limited to Large Pads, meaning you won't be able to use Robigo Mines, meaning you will be scanned while docking and can no longer run criminal passengers (which is at least 50% of the best-paying passengers) without a world of pain. Getting in and out of Hauser's Reach takes longer, period, even without criminal passengers. Point is: large ships were a non-starter before board flipping was killed off, and *definitely* a non-starter in 3.3 and after.

You might be concerned about the lack of shields on this build, but you'll (almost) never collide with a mining station using auto-dock, and the 2E cabin it removes contributes almost nothing to your income even when you do roll a mission for it. You will never need shields doing this run, but a docking computer will prevent you from dinging your fender on the station and having half your passengers cancel their mission, costing you 10~12 million.

Note that without board flipping you'll no longer be able to insist on >3.5mill missions, sometimes you'll have to accept 2.7 or even 2.0. Even with that, still the only game in town.

Just read the patch notes and they didn't change anything involving Robigo passenger missions so i'll be trying out that Python for a while thanks!