Raxxla?

[Brasilius]

Is raxxla a thing in this elite? or is it just mere speculation, and if it has been discovered is it permit locked?

[Boomer]

I love the occasional mystery people find in Elite and the work that goes into figuring it out but I'm not convinced there is anything in game relating to Raxxla either.

[the frost staff]

Raxxia is the dark wheel. The dark wheel is a minor faction in Shinrarta

[Smokey O'Dimm]

Agony_Aunt a écrit :

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/168253-The-Quest-To-Find-Raxxla

Enjoy reading

470 pages...! It might take some time, haha.

Agony_Aunt a écrit :

crazymontana a écrit :

any proof of this one?
Do find this rumour everywhere on the internet yet there is no source to be found that confirms this..

Its rather unsubstantiated.

The story goes like this:

Apparently someone was at an event with FD, where they spoke to an employee who said that someone had been in the system where Raxxla is located.

First this assumes the report is true.
Second there are probably a limited number of people at FD who actually know what Raxxla is and where it is.
Third NDAs apply and discussing Raxxla is verboten except by top management, so unless it was one of these people, probably false.

However, having said that, in all likelyhood, regardless of whether the source is true, the statement itself is highly likely to be true.

Why?

Because a majority of systems within 5000 LY has been visited by players in most directions. Based on lore, and old jumpdrive tech, and assuming FD considered this when placing Raxxla, its likely not too far from the old systems (aka the bubble).

Its also highly likely that Raxxla will not be discoverable with a simple honk. The new FSS might make it findable though... possibly. Note how the codex made an appearance with an entry for Raxxla the same time as they added the FSS.

So, I think regardless of statement, the system where Raxxla is has been visited by not just one CMDR, but possibly lots.

That's most likely the best account of how that rumor about the beta scan have started, all I was able to locate, were a second hand versions of this story and even Drew Wagar mentioned in his latest video that, he was unable to find the source of that story, so who knows. One thing he does confirm that it really exists in Elite Dangerous.

Now J.Patrick Smith did find something very fascinating (ED Fandom mentions this as well), a book by Steven Eisler titled "The Alien World", in which Raxxla is described as a reptilian warrior race who mastered phase shifting technology.

Ohh and the kicker is that Steven Eisler is a pen name for Robert Holdstock who, wrote "The Dark Wheel" novella :)

Video source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkDj8KhrDig


Also, there is a post at ED Fandom site, that somewhat collaborates with this theory and I quote:

"The original Raxxla is a planet with a Coriolis station also named "Raxxla" in Galaxy 9, Andromeda.

Raxxla itself is a feudal world with reptile race with higher technology level than humans. Raxxlans were extremely hostile to every other race. War was what they loved and aimed for. Raxxla itself is not hard to find. Raxxlans will attack without hesitation giving out their location. The closer you get more aggressive they become. Anyone in their territory must be Elite or die. They will give the permit to enter their station after you have proven your skills in battles against them.

Raxxlans had a formed a trade partnership and military alliance with Dark Wheel in 3025. Dark Wheel had an agricultural settlement on the planet Soonji, which was named after Soontil. Only 100 Elite level commanders were allowed to have a residence on this planet due fact Raxxlans did not want large and permanent human settlements near their territory. Soonji was known as a paradise for retirement.

While the alliance was maintained 100 years the trading kept only a few Elites rich. It is known from history that all the snake ships and the first type of Coriolis stations are Raxxlan designed. The Raxxlans were proud reptiles and they named their ships after their feared relatives. This was to remind human beings to respect them while using them.

The trade and military union ended when Dark Wheel entered the forbidden Raxxlan territory with a generation ship. This broke the deal that was made between humans and reptiles. Raxxlans arranged clan wars to declare owners of the systems.

Ben Ryder wanted to get his own deals with Raxxlans and built his own gateway in 3125. This was the only known way to find Raxxla without deeper involvement with the Dark Wheel.

The only way to get to Raxxla was to use Ben Ryder's gateway which was located near Lave and Tionisla system. The only way to find the gateway was to visit Lave Station, ask for permission from Ben Ryder and fly around clockwise around Lave system to Tionisla. The trip had to be not less than 7 to 9 jumps before entering the secret system from Tionisla to the hidden system with the gateway.

The gateway itself was located near the last ringed planet where a battle took place against Allied Police force which was trying to get the ring to their use. The gateway has been lost since Dark Wheel hid it in 3126 due a war against Raxxlans.

Technically Raxxlans had a transport system to transfer the planet from system to other systems. The system looked like 5 large towers at both poles of the planet. Therefore it is extremely plausible that Raxxlan planet has been relocated and can be basically found anywhere. Therefore the current location of the planet is unknown.

Micro Bit Computer Magazine 1990."



I was unable to verify the source so can't vouch for its authenticity.

So if it indeed it's true, that they move the whole planet (if it is really a planet), we will never find it....

[Agony_Aunt]

Its worth keeping in mind that some of the old lore has been retconned and not all sources are considered canon.

[malorob]

Agony_Aunt a écrit :

Its worth keeping in mind that some of the old lore has been retconned and not all sources are considered canon.

something people for get to mention is i remember a vid clip that raxxla will only a pair with in so many light seconds of your ship.
so this could also mean that it is even hidden in our fss scan.
but like people said the system has been found so we need to look in the places we have found not the ones we have not.

[malorob]

If you want to find Raxxla is is not that hard to do.
step 1
we know that Raxxla was in the original game. " so find all star systems in the first game and write them down"
step 2
follow that list in the elite today and search each star system till you find Raxxla.

every other system in the game is meaning less.

[Agony_Aunt]

malorob a écrit :

If you want to find Raxxla is is not that hard to do.
step 1
we know that Raxxla was in the original game. " so find all star systems in the first game and write them down"
step 2
follow that list in the elite today and search each star system till you find Raxxla.

every other system in the game is meaning less.

Its been done. Someone compiled a list of all systems in ED that were in the 8 galaxies of the original game. All of them have been visited extensively since they are all in the bubble.

[malorob]

Agony_Aunt a écrit :

malorob a écrit :

If you want to find Raxxla is is not that hard to do.
step 1
we know that Raxxla was in the original game. " so find all star systems in the first game and write them down"
step 2
follow that list in the elite today and search each star system till you find Raxxla.

every other system in the game is meaning less.

Its been done. Someone compiled a list of all systems in ED that were in the 8 galaxies of the original game. All of them have been visited extensively since they are all in the bubble.

only 8 what about the 9th ? that guy on youtube Drew Wagar said there was 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AsfgQqbRKM

[malorob]

or if you prefer to find it the old way as they say it is in the original elite play it here online

http://www.elitegameonline.com

find it in this game and then you found the system , hope fully that system is in the elite of today

[Agony_Aunt]

malorob a écrit :

or if you prefer to find it the old way as they say it is in the original elite play it here online

http://www.elitegameonline.com

find it in this game and then you found the system , hope fully that system is in the elite of today

Umm.. it didn't actually exist in any previous version of the game.

[malorob]

Umm.. it didn't actually exist in any previous version of the game

Its been done. Someone compiled a list of all systems in ED that were in the 8 galaxies of the original game. All of them have been visited extensively since they are all in the bubble. [/quote]

so if it did not exsist in the first titles why would they compile a list of the galaxies and search for them in this one..... sorry i am confused?

[Agony_Aunt]

malorob a écrit :

Umm.. it didn't actually exist in any previous version of the game

Its been done. Someone compiled a list of all systems in ED that were in the 8 galaxies of the original game. All of them have been visited extensively since they are all in the bubble.

so if it did not exsist in the first titles why would they compile a list of the galaxies and search for them in this one..... sorry i am confused? [/quote]

Because FD have said it is in this version.

People thought that maybe FD put it in a system from the original.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

If I remember right, Raxxla wasn't "Honked" but simply the system it resides in was passed through, because this was before the ADS was implemented, when finding planets had to be done by observing the parallaxing differences. Very tedious. It's why you can find systems that have like 2 planets discovered near the star, and then valueble ones outside that initial range, including ELW.

In all likelihood, Raxxla now resides in a Permit-locked region, nearish to Sol. My money has always been on Bernad's Loop/Horse Head region, because in game design, visual markers are used to indicate things of importance. This doesn't necessarily mean it has to flow bottom up, because the Stellar Forge simply built the Galaxy based on the Real Milky Way. But it could come Top Down, as in, someone Like Braburn takes a look at that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of Nebula, and says "Yeah, this looks Auspicious, let's put something super-duper important here"

Runner up is Polaris, but isn't that just a little Too Obvious?

[Smokey O'Dimm]

Agony_Aunt a écrit :

malorob a écrit :

Umm.. it didn't actually exist in any previous version of the game

Its been done. Someone compiled a list of all systems in ED that were in the 8 galaxies of the original game. All of them have been visited extensively since they are all in the bubble.

so if it did not exsist in the first titles why would they compile a list of the galaxies and search for them in this one..... sorry i am confused?

Because FD have said it is in this version.

People thought that maybe FD put it in a system from the original.

People have combed through 1984 ED's code from top to bottom, back and forth and there was no trace of Raxxla, Drew Wagar mentions this as well, he actually spoke to some of the original devs and they confirmed it's not in the game.

Here is the list complied by Down to Earth Astronomy:

-> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XibS5oozz6-Bk3yJwvu09jgmWJNSsgkx/view


On that list Isinor is the only system that is locked by permit, perhaps the gate to Raxxla is there. At least it's a trail to follow, maybe there is a way to get the permit :)

I'm in DW2 at the moment, so won't be able to check it out till I'm back from my journey.

malorob a écrit :

Agony_Aunt a écrit :

Its worth keeping in mind that some of the old lore has been retconned and not all sources are considered canon.

something people for get to mention is i remember a vid clip that raxxla will only a pair with in so many light seconds of your ship.
so this could also mean that it is even hidden in our fss scan.

Aye, just like the Dark Wheel station.

I wonder why would they not use any of the novellas for the canon, why would they ask to write them in the first place?

Hobo Misanthropus a écrit :

If I remember right, Raxxla wasn't "Honked" but simply the system it resides in was passed through, because this was before the ADS was implemented, when finding planets had to be done by observing the parallaxing differences. Very tedious. It's why you can find systems that have like 2 planets discovered near the star, and then valueble ones outside that initial range, including ELW.

In all likelihood, Raxxla now resides in a Permit-locked region, nearish to Sol. My money has always been on Bernad's Loop/Horse Head region, because in game design, visual markers are used to indicate things of importance. This doesn't necessarily mean it has to flow bottom up, because the Stellar Forge simply built the Galaxy based on the Real Milky Way. But it could come Top Down, as in, someone Like Braburn takes a look at that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of Nebula, and says "Yeah, this looks Auspicious, let's put something super-duper important here"

Runner up is Polaris, but isn't that just a little Too Obvious?

Was Polaris permit locked in beta?

[Smokey O'Dimm]

God a écrit :

Felicity Farseer knows more than she is indicating.

For sure!

Perhaps Felicity & Rebecca Weston were close friends?