Python or Imperial Clipper?

[Ostoia]

Which one should I buy? Most of the responses I found I suspect are outdated. Is Python just better in all aspects? I am kind of tempted by Clipper because I like how it looks like.

[Sidewinder]

Clipper is faster and better looking. That's about it.
Python is better in most other aspects afaik.

[One Eye Jack]

Python is far more versatile. Clipper probably more fun to fly. Very fast and agile. But all around the Python is the better ship.

[TiberiuS]

Why not both

[Eddo]

Python = medium pad
Clipper = large pad

For me, if you are using that as your "daily driver", is a no brainer. Python.

[love]

Python.

Cheaper, more reliable, insanely good in PVE. Clipper drifts harder than a deer on an icy asphalt road.

[natty]

Python. Best ship in Elite.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Clipper looks good, flies fast. Good for some pirating or smuggling.

Python can land on outposts, stronger weaponry and defences. Doesn't require an Imperial rank. More versatile, in general.

[Blind Reverend]

Originally posted by Lovecraft:

Python.

Cheaper, more reliable, insanely good in PVE. Clipper drifts harder than a deer on an icy asphalt road.

Not really cheaper, the power plant (7A) alone costs 50mill in phyton a rated. Military grade armor costs 50mil too, for clipper only 20mil. Most expensive on the clipper is the 7a shield if taken.

[One Eye Jack]

Originally posted by Blind Reverend:

Originally posted by Lovecraft:

Python.

Cheaper, more reliable, insanely good in PVE. Clipper drifts harder than a deer on an icy asphalt road.

Not really cheaper, the power plant (7A) alone costs 50mill in phyton a rated. Military grade armor costs 50mil too, for clipper only 20mil. Most expensive on the clipper is the 7a shield if taken.

If you get the Clipper that 7A shield is pretty much not optional. I A rated the stock size. 5 if memory serves. And it just isn’t up to the task of combat at all. At least not for me. Might be ok for a much better pilot.

[LostCaveman]

I am in a similar situation i had a python and now i need a megaship scanner but i will go for the clipper just because i want something with more style.

But let's compare the highlights taken from coriolis
Clipper / Python

Cost: 22,3Mio / 56,9Mio >> More then double the price hence the insurance rises

Padsize: L-Pad / Medium-Pad >> The M-Pad is a great plus which can open up more docking stations and certain missions.

Max LY range: 27,6 / 30,8 >> I normally don't use these number, with engineers you get both way over 30 LY which is enough for a bubble ship.

Max Speed: 348 / 267 >> Similar to jumprange these are just basic values unengineered but you notice that there is a 100 m/s difference. This can be very handy on planets because we all know how long it can take to go somewhere when under 50km.

If we look at core modules it's

PP: 6/7 >> For an alround vessel no big difference here, i normally downgrade them but if you want to fit the big guns and shield boosters Class 7 is king

Thruster: 6/6
FSD: 5/5
LS: 5/4 >> Without going into silent running or deep space doesn't matter
Pd: 6/7 >> Same as PP

Last but not least Internals:
The clipper has class 7 slot which is if we are talking cargo worth 2 of the 3 class 6 slots. This leaves us with 1 class 6 slot for both ships for shields. For the sake of comparison we keep it simple.

If we throw the class 5 and 4 slots together the python is the winner with 2 class 5 + 1 class 4 vs 2 class 4 slots of the clipper. Even if you are going to throw class 4 in the 5's anyway.

In the lower slots it's the other way around, 2 class 1 + 2 class 3 for the clipper and we have a winner vs 1 class 2 + 2 class 3 if let's say you are going to fit 3 different small limpet controllers thats great with the clipper.

Overall i would agrue that in most situations these internals are so similar that you can only decide by preference but if you want a bigger shield the clipper is the way to go.

At last the weapons:
Remember the PP & PD sizes from earlier, thats where they come in handy.
The Python got one more L size (3xL/2xM) slot and thats exactly why it can hit harder with it's bigger PP & PD.

If you are just shooting some groundtargets for later SRV fun or have that one Navy mission to finish and are not purely using it as a combat vessel the clipper is the way to go.


Sidenote: You can compare it all day but it boils down to the price tag.

22,3 Mio vs 56,9 is close to triple the base price and adding ontop the 7A PD and 7A PP for around 60 million to the python vs 19 million to ad onto the clipper.

If you ask me comparing a ship that costs fully kitted between 150 and 200 million to one half the price with way under 80 is nonsense.Also don't forget the insurance prices, they differ greatly. But if you must compare them, the clipper is for it's pricetag really good.

That's just my opinion and what made me decide to go the clipper way, besides the phenomenal view. ;)

[Ostoia]

Took clipper in the end. Looks better, sounds really nice, speed and manouvrability makes it fun to fly. Not to mention did not have nowehere near enough money to outfit Python.

[LostCaveman]

Originally posted by Ostoia:

Took clipper in the end. Looks better, sounds really nice, speed and manouvrability makes it fun to fly. Not to mention did not have nowehere near enough money to outfit Python.

Good choice, it's a real beauty. :) Have fun with it.

[Felony Ferret]

Yeah the Python's not behind navy rank grind, but is, iirc about twice the price of the clipper...

I didn't consider that when I had enough to buy my Python. I had the poor girl moth balled for months until I made enough to afford to finish outfitting and have rebuy.

I'm working on getting the clipper becaus ei love the Gutamaya ships... Nothing screams elegance like slave labor :D

[Ostoia]

What I learned to dislike about Gutamaya ships already, is that stupid manufacturer name, it just sounds silly then station talks to you and says Gutamaya, no other ship builder has a thing like this...

[malorob]

for me i have had both and the python is alot better med pad landing just gives you so many other options for missions and places to go.
but it is a preferance. .... i have a cutter and i still use the python more lol