Are conflict zones broken?

[Tyrael Raven]

So I'm trying to participate in the CG, but after having gone to 2 different medium conflict zones in Quator, there are NO Scythe of Panem ships. Literally none. There's no combat whatsoever going on, it's just a bunch of Bruthanvan Co ships flying in circles.

I've been to both that I've been able to find that are relevant to the CG (there are a couple for other factions too it looks like) twice now, and both times in both CZs it's just Bruthanvan ships flying in circles.

I also tried relogging from the Mobius PVE private group to a smaller private group, then in solo, and it's still the same.

WTAF is the issue, anybody have any clue?

[Tyrael Raven]

Update: After typing OP and while pulling up Netflix to just watch a show until I heard from someone here, some sort of "Allied Correspondents" protection event started and some Scythe of Panem ships dropped in.

They've accordingly been vaporized, and now it's me and half the Federal Navy just flying in circles again.

Is this how CZs work now? You literally have to just sit there doing nothing for like 20 minutes, wait for an event to play for like 10 minutes, then go back to doing nothing again?

[Agony_Aunt]

Ships not spawning on entry is a bug.

Once you have selected your side you need to fill the progress bar for kills. You should get new spawns if you run out of enemies to killl. Once the bar is full, you should leave. Waiting 20 mins for new enemies to spawn won't net you any more gains in terms of influence. Always return to base and hand in after each round.

If its not working like that, raise a ticket with FD possibly.

[Tyrael Raven]

I'll raise a ticket then, since typing that (shows T+13 minutes atm, and I waited until literally ALL enemies were dead to do so) I'm still in here chilling with just Bruthanvan ships. After the event ended there hasn't been one single Scythe of Panem spawn.

Quick note too, how do you actually pick your side now? This is the first CZ I've done since they changed the UI and the old faction tab isn't around anymore. I ended up just shooting the Scythe of Panem ships when they showed up to "declare" my side as Bruthanvan.

I kind of wondered if they hadn't changed CGs fundamentally and done away with actually picking a faction directly from the right-side panel.

[malorob]

picking a side is the easy part....

press 2 for communication panel
then up on the left side is a tab that is high lighted choose it and then choose a side

as for it bugged i have found jumping into low CZ the ships will spawn afterwards

[Tyrael Raven]

@malorob Thanks mate, much appreciated. I just got back to port and found out that since I didn't technically *really* pick a side I got a whole 0 combat bonds, which really sucks because I was in there for like an hour and killed at least 2 dozen ships when they actually spawned

Re: OP though, I actually think the spawning issue might be intentional, I got a message 20 minutes exactly after the correspondents event thing ended, had a wing of 4 Elite-ranked Spec Ops ships and some support ships drop in and noticed a couple things after the spec ops inbound message.

This was my message log right after the spec ops wing showed up, and I notice the combat coordinator mentions a retreat at 0335, which was when the last of the "protect the correspondents" event attempted to pull out (they were promptly vaporized.) The exactly 20 minute difference between the two events also seems to indicate this might be scripted:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1897231226

I noticed during the spec ops event that it gave me a tracker for the spec ops event too:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1897231374

Is this like how it is with regular CZs now sometimes, is it just the CG CZs for this event that are like this? I don't recall it ever being more than a massive ongoing battle when I did CZs in the past (probably been more than a year since I did one, I should add)

[malorob]

you can also just choose a ship and engage in battle as well that also chooses a side if i remember

[Tyrael Raven]

Originally posted by malorob:

you can also just choose a ship and engage in battle as well that also chooses a side if i remember

It correctly changed the colors on my radar and processed IFF just fine, but gave me no combat bonds for any of the ships I killed so that apparently doesn't actually work anymore. Or *IT* is broken too

[malorob]

Originally posted by Tyrael Raven:

Originally posted by malorob:

you can also just choose a ship and engage in battle as well that also chooses a side if i remember

It correctly changed the colors on my radar and processed IFF just fine, but gave me no combat bonds for any of the ships I killed so that apparently doesn't actually work anymore. Or *IT* is broken too

loose track of things working one day then changed in another... any way i know the first way i told you still works was in CZ just the other day in wings ....

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by malorob:

any way i know the first way i told you still works was in CZ just the other day in wings ....

It could be cause one of your wingmen has picked the side.

I remember when I first time tried a CZ long time ago, I didn't know about picking sides, and it didn't give me any bonds for my kills, either (did tag enemies/friends, though).

[Ruby Heartless]

im bugging out bad in cz's uss and rez site. when i play in a wing with someone from another country. the number of bugs that entered the game since the september update is astounding. fleet carriers have been delayed AGAIN! since frontier has to focus on all of these bugs, its really sad especially when so much of multiplay is broken. be aware that sometimes u will drop into a zone that is bugged and that the battle never happens or has already happened. this is somewhat normal and should be expected maybe once every few rounds.

[Agony_Aunt]

Oh, you didn't pick a side... hehe

[Planewalker]

Yes, CZs will sometimes not spawn in ships, both solo and in wings.

Relogging and/or re-entering/switching the CZ will eventually spawn in the ships.
(edit: another workaround is switching to solo/pg & back)
(edit 2: spawn tick is flying within 7.5km and can take up to a minute)

And yes one needs to pick a side for the CZ.


It pays to pay attention to patch notes and comms logs.

o7

[Tyrael Raven]

Originally posted by Planewalker:

Yes, CZs will sometimes not spawn in ships, both solo and in wings.

Relogging and/or re-entering/switching the CZ will eventually spawn in the ships.
(edit: another workaround is switching to solo/pg & back)
(edit 2: spawn tick is flying within 7.5km and can take up to a minute)

And yes one needs to pick a side for the CZ.


It pays to pay attention to patch notes and comms logs.

o7

I have more than 2,000 play hours and have been playing for like 3 or 4 years. I pay attention to patch notes but believe it or not I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of every single change ever implemented in the history of the game, particularly with mechanics I almost never use. There also don't appear to be any resources where FD actually lists their settings other than (usually vague) patch notes, so I apologize for having to ask here but FD is kind of useless in a few aspects as we all know.

To be quite honest, under the new schema I'm consistently pulling in about 300k in bonds before the CZ goes into "battle won" and I have to fly back to a station and then return (relogging appears to simply generate no ships of any kind after a few attempts, and flying an ls out then turning around ALSO spawns literally no ships of any kind. From a programming perspective, I honestly have no idea how it's even possible to screw the system up that bad unless FD intentionally handicapped the ever loving hell out of CZ settings)

I'm doing this CG and will probably never, EVER do a CZ again. This is literally the single least profitable activity I've ever done in the entire game, I'm fairly sure I'd be making similar income just setting a course to some random system outside the bubble and just honking. I had thought with a fully a-rated and fully engineered corvette that usually never breaks shield it would be worthwhile without repair costs, but 300k every 20-25 minutes (approximate flight time to/from the nearest station + actual combat) is absolute bulls***

As a quick note, after testing 4 relogs (including 1 hard relog closing to desktop, closing launcher, and doing a fresh exe) and then 2 brief flights 1ls out then back to the CZ, literally nothing spawns. I watched an entire hour-long episode of Narcos sitting about 500m from the center of the zone, NOTHING SPAWNED, relogged from PG to Solo, watched another episode, and then flew back to the station. I can stream it and post the YouTube if you really don't think I'm doing all this, because I kind of enjoy CZ combat but "kill 10 ships then return to station" as a mandatory completely defeats the entire purpose and makes it a chore. I really want it to work, but it doesn't.

[Planewalker]

Been testing CZs and yes the spawns do indeed seem very broken atm.

I don't even know how they managed to do that; the list i made was the go to.

They might wanna fix the CZs. =D

[Tyrael Raven]

Originally posted by Planewalker:

Been testing CZs and yes the spawns do indeed seem very broken atm.

I don't even know how they managed to do that; the list i made was the go to.

They might wanna fix the CZs. =D

Cool thanks man, I'll go ahead and get my ticket put in. Sorry for being a bit testy on that last response, I actually did test the stuff and was pretty sure I wasn't just missing something for noob/inexperience reasons.