Are remote release flak launchers worth it?

[Marth Vader]

I'm a scrub who has all of the big 3 fully outfitted and mostly engineered, and yet has never even tried to kill a thargoid interceptor.

I've heard the chieftain is good, but that one medium module is rough. I'd need the missile launcher in that spot, and two AX cannons on the large, leaving no room for a flak launcher. Ar they REALLY worth it, or can I just not bother with them?

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Flak launcher is arguably the one you need. The Thargons are the real threat.

If you really want to kill Goids, get a T10 or Federal Dropship. And at least the Guardian Gauss Cannons.

[𝕁𝕖𝕣𝕣𝕖𝕔]

They arent worth it. I dont use them. I ignore the swarms.

[Planewalker]

Автор сообщения: Jerrec

They arent worth it. I dont use them. I ignore the swarms.

While the OP is from six years ago...

Flak launchers can be useful when starting out, and are not needed at planetside AXCZs due to the thargons not being present. Case in point it is circumstancial when/if they are needed.

More information can be found on the AXI webpage and CMDR Mechan youtube.

[cocoapuffs1000]

Since this thread got resurrected... Type 10 or dropship as a Thargoid killer? I haven't heard of those ships much in that context

[bertpigeon]

Автор сообщения: cocoapuffs1000

Since this thread got resurrected... Type 10 or dropship as a Thargoid killer? I haven't heard of those ships much in that context

Neither show up in any of the Ax build guides which are on the internet.

[BloodravenD]

Автор сообщения: bertpigeon

Автор сообщения: cocoapuffs1000

Since this thread got resurrected... Type 10 or dropship as a Thargoid killer? I haven't heard of those ships much in that context

Neither show up in any of the Ax build guides which are on the internet.

T-10 shows up for popping scouts, but a 'conda would be better for that. T-10 would also be good as a supporting ship as well. The AXI ship build repo has builds for the T-10 and Dropship.

[Pathfinder Serza]

And every mentor will recommend either Chieftain or Krait.

Just throwing that out there.

[Sighman]

I use an FDS for spire sites - banshee smashing, scout killing, orthrus punching and material gathering

https://inara.cz/elite/cmdr-fleet-ship/325280/3445812/

I use a Vulture as a pure scout killer (2 x size 3 ax multis). That's a ton of fun.

[Supercomputer]

Hot take, but I think that using flak on the motherships is also the ideal play. If you hit the red spots with them, it can instantly kill them, but you have to time it just right, otherwise their armor soaks it. I'm a bad aim too, so it helps to have so many projectiles going at once.

[0Samuel]

Автор сообщения: cocoapuffs1000

Since this thread got resurrected... Type 10 or dropship as a Thargoid killer? I haven't heard of those ships much in that context

An AX ship needs to be fast, cold, and heavily armored. Firepower is a nice bonus, but more can be done with less if you have the essential three.

The Federal line of ships has lots of firepower and heavy armor, but they are neither fast nor cold, so you don't tend to see them much in AX combat. The FDL, Eagle, and, to a lesser extent, the Python can get two out of three, but you really need all three.

Hence you see Kraits. Lots and lots of Kraits. The Alliance ships can do all of these, of which the Chieftain is just slightly better for reasons I can't remember. Imperial ships have trouble with with the armor and tend to be short on firepower, but are fast enough and cold enough that people use 'em anyway.

The big ships are penalized in AX combat by the fact that there are no huge versions of the Guardian weapons and is an experimental weapons limit, so they don't really get much more firepower and still suffer the agility problems. Nevertheless, you still see Cutters, because they are quite good for the reasons mentioned above, Anacondas, because people are lazy, and yes, type-10s.

Specifically you see type-10s with Enhanced AX Multicannons. Back when this thread started, those weren't a thing, and they were strictly terrible. With them, they are slightly suboptimal, but work wonders against scouts. They have to facetank everything though, so they have a hard time against interceptors.

Realistically an AX type-10 is a very valuable addition for several kinds of AX group activities but isn't something you should use solo.