Dirty Drive Experimental Effects

[Witcher]

What does the Drive Distributors effect do? Inara describes it as "Enhanced fuel and thrust balancing across the drives to improve mass curve efficiency". Better maneuverability?

Also, how much mass does the Stripped Down effect reduce thruster's mass?

Btw, which effect did you choose?

[xPEDx]

Dirty drive is for turning , more maneuverability, and is good for slow turning ships like the cutter and conda. but also any ship if you want more umff. i get dirty drive g5 if poss.

[HairballHacker]

I put Double Braced on my DD5 Chieftain because manueverability is the Chieftain's primary advantage in combat and I want its thrusters to survive (not to mention those drive stick right on out there). On a Conda or some other big, slow PoS like that I would do a different effect like additional maneuverability.

Fortunately, experimental effects are cheap and can be changed at any time so it is easy to experiment with them.

[steve.neverslept]

Originally posted by HairballHacker:

I put Double Braced on my DD5 Chieftain because manueverability is the Chieftain's primary advantage in combat and I want its thrusters to survive (not to mention those drive stick right on out there).

With the Chieftain its the canopy you need to worry about.

[HairballHacker]

Originally posted by steve.neverslept:

Originally posted by HairballHacker:

I put Double Braced on my DD5 Chieftain because manueverability is the Chieftain's primary advantage in combat and I want its thrusters to survive (not to mention those drive stick right on out there).

With the Chieftain its the canopy you need to worry about.

My canopy has yet to take any damage. Not convinced yet there is really an issue. Besides, is there a canopy engineer\experimental effect? If not, not relevant to this discussion.

[Witcher]

Thanks all for your replies but I wanted to know more about the experimental effects - not about DD engineering.

Anyway, I found my answer at https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/405552-Drag-Drives-vs-Drive-Distributors-for-speed.

[Dave1029]

For the guy above, dirty drives is not better for large ships. It makes them turn faster but drift more. Clean drives are a tad slower and a tad less responsive but you can stop and turn on a dime easier. I'd say clean drives for big ships and smugglers. Dirty for small.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Drive Distributors improve the mass curve of your thrusters, with is ideal for tighter maneuvering especially when combined with Dirty Drives which reduce your Optimal Mass anchor points on the thrusters. Too high of mass in a ship causes what we players experience as "Drift" when trying to turn and affects the counter-thrust ability of both FA off and FA on during hard core maneuvering.

Drag drives increase the optimal multiplier, so if your ship is at the Minimum mass threshold of your thrusters already, Drag Drives will be universally better, however if your ship sits closer to the Optimal or Maximum mass anchor points, Drag Drives will net you exceptional speed, but deceleration and turning will suffer.


Rule of thumb:

Drag Drives for non combat ships or if you've opted for Clean Drive Tuning.

Drive Distributors for Combat ships. Especially if you have Dirty Drive tuning.

Imperial Cutter: Drag Drives and Dirty Drives because 1100T traveling 600Meters per Second makes its own rules.

[Witcher]

Thanks @Dave and @Hobo for your comments above.

How much will CD (instead of DD) reduce drifting for a Cutter?

Thing is I'm happy with the Op Multiplier and speed on my Orca and Cutter got with G5 DD - without experimental effects. Now I wanna improve on their maneuverability and jump range hence reckon 10% mass reduction on their respective C6 & C8 thrusters will help with this?

How much you reckon a 10% improvement in Op Multiplier will be better than 10% reduction in mass for 40t or 160t thrusters? Remember reduction in these masses will improve on this ships' jump range.

[o7_Zark_o7]

@Hobo ... do you know of any further analysis anywhere to back up your comments above? I buy what you've written, but nearly every CMDR I've spoken to swears only Drag Drives are worth putting on any type of ship. Unfortunately the forum page linked to above has spread a lot of bad information regarding drag drives, as if speed is the only metric worth looking at