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caaront (已封鎖) 2018 年 2 月 20 日 下午 9:21
Joystick calibration is hidden in Windows 10, found it, here's how.
In the previous versions of Windows you simply went to Devices and Printers and right clicked on your joystick then on controls, then properties and there were two tabs, one being to calibrate it.

On Windows 10 it is not there so I had to add a dead zone, but all evening my ships have been slowly rolling to the right.

I discovered that if you hold ctrl and shift down while you click on properties it reveals both tabs.

So I was finally able to calibrate my stick.

Hope this helps another W-10 user.
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Planewalker 2019 年 10 月 17 日 上午 3:24 
Using any form of calibration is bad for any controller, as the input ranges will diminish over time, and calibration actually exacerbates this.
(there is another thread here on the forum with the technical details)


The correct thing to do is use Elite Dangerous deadzones to compensate for any drift on a controller.


Also, in order to reach the proper controller settings, do this:
(the calibration tab will not show up without the proper drivers installed)
Windows System -> Control Panel -> Devices and Printers -> Right click your device
Game Controller Settings -> Properties -> Settings -> Calibrate...
(OP has also already answered this)

It's generally a bad idea to use 3rd party software with controllers.



Might be time to close this thread before we have to get the holy water. xD
Frank K 2019 年 10 月 18 日 下午 5:03 
引用自 Agony_Aunt
引用自 Shadowdancer
*presses Windows key*
*enters "joystick"*

Damn that's so hidden.

Actually, just checked. That doesn't work. If you enter just joy it picks up Setup USB game controllers though.
It works for me, Setup USB game controllers is where my HOTAS and Pedals are, but I never liked and so uninstalled the software that came with them. So maybe that's why Windows picks them up?
最後修改者:Frank K; 2019 年 10 月 18 日 下午 5:04
Bubba Fett 2019 年 10 月 18 日 下午 8:56 
Excellent tip. Thank you.
martin77 2019 年 10 月 19 日 上午 8:43 
引用自 One Eye Jack
引用自 Shadowdancer
*presses Windows key*
*enters "joystick"*

Damn that's so hidden.
When they just arbitrarily move crap from where it had been for ages then it's hidden as far as I am concerned. Windows is continually moving crap and hiding settings that used to be obvious. I have a rough time even finding where the dang screen saver program is now. Even simple stuff like file, edit, view, tools etc. that used to be at the top of nearly every single word processor and web browser have either been removed or replaced with a bunch of meaningless icons now. Oh yeah you can go into settings and look..... for ages sometimes...... and get them back but why should you have to?

Not happy at all with the direction computers are heading. And it isn't just Windows doing this stupid crap. Same kind of things happening on Macs as well.

Seriously...... why do they keep moving crap?

I fully agree with you.
In windows properties more and more functions dissapear and change the position, it is dissapointing, and every "function update" it is even worser than before, especially for gamers.
Why the controller numbers change everytime you plug in a device?
in win7 it was easier
psytest1 2019 年 10 月 23 日 上午 7:51 
the CTRL+SHIFT+CLICK didno't work for me but what did work was to uninstall the T.16000M driver that I'd downloaded from the Thrustmaster website, then reconnect the joystick and the defulat Windows driver (W10x64) miraculously DID display the settings tab when properties was clicked and so I could then do a simple recalibration which completely fixed the ZR neutral rotation problem.
JetsonRING 2019 年 11 月 3 日 下午 6:46 
If anyone has difficulty getting the "Properties" button to open the properties page in joy.cpl (the joy.cpl program closes when you click "Properties") I found a solution:

Run joy.cpl as an administrator.

Close Joy.cpl, click the Windows button, type joy.cpl and when joy.cpl shows up in the list, right-click it and select "Run As Administrator".

Now when you click on the "Properties" button, the Properties window should open.
最後修改者:JetsonRING; 2019 年 11 月 3 日 下午 6:46
Tex 2020 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:55 
引用自 caaront

I discovered that if you hold ctrl and shift down while you click on properties it reveals both tabs.

So I was finally able to calibrate my stick.

Hope this helps another W-10 user.


Thank You! :)
Swans 2020 年 7 月 12 日 下午 12:34 
Alternatively, you could just type 'joy.cpl' ;-)
SilentBob86 2020 年 7 月 13 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 ReeNoiP
You can also search for joy.cpl and run that. But yeah it's annoying how they hide things.

You sir are a gentleman, and a scholar!
Blackdragon 2020 年 7 月 13 日 下午 2:02 
引用自 Agony_Aunt
One thing i hate about later versions of windows is how MS keep trying to hide more and more.


引用自 One Eye Jack
Seriously...... why do they keep moving crap?

Answer is very obvious. They don't want the consumer to access those controls. And more generally, they don't want the consumer to be "smart" about their computer (THEIR as in Microsoft's). What they want is to turn PC users into mobile users - i.e. mindless drones who don't know or care how stuff works and control their "devices" by fingerpainting like Kindergarten kids. This kind of user is helpless before the real owner of the device - its actual producer and operator.

Oh, they don't just remove the controls outright straight away. They hide them, and limit them, and slowly "retire" them, reducing accessibility, lowering support levels, replacing actual controls with big fancy buttons that don't allow deep access. They force you to download updates, then make update download automatic, then don't even notify you when your computer suddenly starts downloading and installing something you didn't expressly authorise. Same with reports - first you do it manually, then they offer to do it for you, then it's done by default with possibility of refusal, until finally it's done in the background with no authorisation or notification.

Next OS version rolls out, user agency gets reduced even further. Until we finally have OS No. Omega where EVERYTHING is controlled server-side, ALL user actions are tracked and reported, and user has NO control over what his device actually does. In fact his device isn't even his anymore, it's operated by proprietary software that belongs to the corporation, and the user pays to have his device operated by said software.

Once you look at the evolution of operating systems and similar programs this tendency becomes quite obvious. Of course, the next generation of consumers would be conditioned to accept it as perfectly natural order of things. Same with the Internet being put under control, TV and printed media, etc. Brave New World right at our doorstep, lads.
最後修改者:Blackdragon; 2020 年 7 月 13 日 下午 2:03
HyratelWyvern 2020 年 11 月 30 日 上午 10:52 
引用自 Planewalker
Using any form of calibration is bad for any controller, as the input ranges will diminish over time, and calibration actually exacerbates this.
(there is another thread here on the forum with the technical details)


The correct thing to do is use Elite Dangerous deadzones to compensate for any drift on a controller.


Also, in order to reach the proper controller settings, do this:
(the calibration tab will not show up without the proper drivers installed)
Windows System -> Control Panel -> Devices and Printers -> Right click your device
Game Controller Settings -> Properties -> Settings -> Calibrate...
(OP has also already answered this)

It's generally a bad idea to use 3rd party software with controllers.



Might be time to close this thread before we have to get the holy water. xD

I'm sorry but this is flat wrong (use ED internal deadzones), especially if you have an older flight stick with center slop and high-mileage sensors. I've had very good results with using DIView from upthread (DXTweak2 pukes on one of my Lots Of Axes HOTAS). DIView provides much more precise control over DX-based controllers which may not have internal calibration, which is also a problem BECAUSE Windows' Built In Calibration Wizard will cause you to *overshoot* your endstops, meaning your throttle slider will never reach zero or 100% and stay there!

I've found the optimum to be to set the calibrated end is just inside the actual throw by 1-2 values, so that the slider/throttle handle reaches full saturation slightly before it reaches the mechanical end stop, so you can reliably reach 100%/0% input, at a sacrifice of such a small amount of travel that just resting your hand on the control will lose the difference in noise
最後修改者:HyratelWyvern; 2020 年 11 月 30 日 上午 10:58
Robert 2021 年 7 月 25 日 下午 2:39 
引用自 Mael-1
OK - found the UTIL, I see where it lets you reset your X,Y a bit, manually, but holding CTRL-SHFT or not when clicking properties, no calibrate comes up.
I'm using X56 HOTAAS, installed correctly, but Logitech's util won'y let me correct teh Z-Axis drift I've developed. I'm certain I've used Windows calibratin before but seems to have completely vanished no matter where I look.


Did you figure this out?
57 2021 年 7 月 26 日 上午 12:44 
Please start a new topic if you still have issues, thanks.
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