Thinking of getting a Thrustmaster T16000M FCS... should I get two, or a throttle?

[cheater]

Hey all! I've seen the T16000M recommended. I lucked out and got one in a yard sale. What do I get:

- a second T16000M
- a TWCS throttle
- both a second T16000M and TWCS throttle
- second T16000M, TWCS throttle, and rudder pedals

I'm not sure what the differences are between these setups. What are the differences in your opinion?

Until I get the other parts, think I'll be good with a single T16000M plus an Xbox One Elite Controller for the left hand? Do you think that's a good setup?

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate how great this forum is.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Get the throttle - many more buttons and controls within the finger-reach, without taking the hand off of it. The joystick has only four buttons and one 4-way hat on the stick, itself.

[Father Jack]

Throttle

[cheater]

I've actually been thinking of modding the joystick with buttons reachable on the stick, I enjoy modding but it's obviously a big project. And yeah, the throttle has iirc 4-6 more inputs even if you count the buttons in the base.

Anyone here prefer two sticks, and why?

[Daveyboy]

I'm on T16000M + TWCS, works fine for me.
There's no sticky bit in the middle of the throttle so if you want to use full-range it's best to set some deadzone in the middle.
No major complaints about the T16000M though if you use the base buttons for anything sometimes it can be easy to accidently hit an adjacant one - they do have little bumps on them to make it a bit easier to find the right one though.

[Tokfan]

Yup yup yup. I can only repeat what's been said here again;
throttle!
lots of handy buttons - more than on the stick itself
the base buttons on the stick is akward to bind to anything else but "chill" functions like nightvision/75% speed/switch hud mode etc.
And DO set the dead zone on the throttle if you go full range.

Now my only wish is the ability to save control profiles and a button to switch between them because you will run out of buttons if you try to have everything useful bound aswell as a decent combat setup at the same time - there's always a few things that either gets placed akward or simply doesn't fit. Best pipe dream would be if you switched mode from combat->scan or scan->combat your controls switch at the same time.

(Might be a bit off topic, but have the recent patch fixed the "after binding all HOTAS buttons keyboard functions start to magically unbind themselves by random"?)

[cheater]

wow that keyboard bug doesn't sound great at all. is this an issue other players have been experiencing?

[Eddo]

Save your bindings, I don't know how since it has never been an issue for me but you can easily find it on google, it would be somewhere in your files. Might not fix the issue but saves you from rebinding endlessly.

The throttle is awesome, if you are going to get something from that, it is the throttle. The selection of buttons is awesome (3 4 way buttons, 1 analog stick with push in button, additional thumb button, 4 more buttons by the fingers, with some paddles; it really is well packed with buttons and most are easily reachable. You can bind just about everything you need in the game.

The throttle don't have an obvious "zero", which is the main argument against, but Tokan's advice is spot on in setting dead zones.


The stick is I guess "adequate". The base buttons are largely useless if you are using the throttle, but you can bind unimportant things like switching lights on and off. There is no dedicated secondary fire button, which is a slight bummer as I don't think any of the buttons on the stick itself particularly lend itself to be good "fire" buttons. You only have POV buttons, and 3 extra apart from trigger, so you are going to need to go hands-off a lot to access all necessary buttons if you go extra sticks.

[cheater]

gotcha, thanks! again i might mod the stick for more buttons :) i like modding controllers!

[Tokfan]

Originally posted by cheater00:

wow that keyboard bug doesn't sound great at all. is this an issue other players have been experiencing?

Dunno, only seems to happend when you reach a set amount of bindings, now if you do not care about using keyboard & mouse AND your hotas at the same time with another person you'll most likely never run into this issue.

[TheOptimator]

E:D with a HOTAS (stick and throttle) is incredible.

Add in a VR headset and you have one of the most immersive experiences ever.

[konstantynopolitaneczka]

you should buy throttle and stick and control panel
check this one https://www.ubuy.com.pl/pl/catalog/product/view/id/2453319/s/logitech-g-saitek-pro-flight-multi-panel?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIob7ynPrt4QIVSOWaCh0B6gGGEAkYByABEgI_lPD_BwE

[cheater]

Originally posted by CMDR Rademenes:

you should buy throttle and stick and control panel
check this one https://www.ubuy.com.pl/pl/catalog/product/view/id/2453319/s/logitech-g-saitek-pro-flight-multi-panel?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIob7ynPrt4QIVSOWaCh0B6gGGEAkYByABEgI_lPD_BwE

What is the usage scenario for that control panel? I play in VR, so I'm not sure I'll be able to see it in the first place.

[funkynutz]

Throttle is more immersive. Dual sticks does have certain advantages though (fully analogue control in every direction, for both rotation and movement), and is a lot of fun in combat... You have to get somwewhat creative with the controls though:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1669339814

[cheater]

Originally posted by FunkynutZ:

Throttle is more immersive. Dual sticks does have certain advantages though (fully analogue control in every direction, for both rotation and movement), and is a lot of fun in combat... You have to get somwewhat creative with the controls though:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1669339814

Thanks. I thought the throttle had an analog 4-directional stick though?

Now I'm not fully sure: on the joystick, is the rotation digital?

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

The T16000M throttle has an analogue mini-stick, and the joystick has an analogue yaw axis (left-right rotation).