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Lord Yoshi Aug 3, 2019 @ 2:26pm
T.16000 M FCS will not install drivers.
I just received this stick today, and I had the impression that elite dangerous had its own drop down control settings for this specific flight stick and not show up as generic joystick. I tried installing the recent driver seen on the thrustmaster website, but when I open it up it doesn't run any set up. I tried installing Target software and it doesn't complete its installation and fails as it is looking for a specific tmclass.dll file . I have windows 10 with the most recent update.

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Qrazy Aug 3, 2019 @ 2:43pm 
I don't even use TM drivers for mine. Plugged it in, let windows do it's thing and selected it inside Elite.
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Lord Yoshi Aug 3, 2019 @ 2:56pm 
all i see for joystick support is generic joystick
Last edited by Lord Yoshi; Aug 3, 2019 @ 3:03pm
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<Caeris↝ Aug 3, 2019 @ 3:33pm 
Driver for FCS Hotas

http://ts.thrustmaster.com/download/accessories/pc/unified_drivers/2018_FFD_2.exe


T.A.R.G.E.T Software

http://ts.thrustmaster.com/download/accessories/pc/hotas/software/TARGET/TARGET_v3018(328v2).exe



Elite Dangerous T.A.R.G.E.T profile macro for FCS Hotas


ts.thrustmaster.com/download/pub/webupdate/TFlight/FCS_HOTAS_ELITE-DANGEROUS.zip




Look into....

C:\windows\ system32 \driverstore \ filerepository\ tmhid.inf_amd64_713a5a28b2771528 \ x64 folder for tmclass.dll ..... if it´s really missing or just a corrupted file (path).

If you open T.A.R.G.E.T, does it show you a picture of your joystick or nothing ?
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Lord Yoshi Aug 3, 2019 @ 3:48pm 
ok i do not have a tmhid.inf folder
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One Eye Jack Aug 3, 2019 @ 3:49pm 
I didn’t install any drivers for mine. It works perfectly right out of the box. I am also running Windows 10.
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Qrazy Aug 3, 2019 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by wattzup:
all i see for joystick support is generic joystick

Do you have any controllers plugged in also? PS4/XB1 etc. That could be causing issues. Steam game pad does some weird ♥♥♥♥ in certain games also with blocking out a HOTAS.
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One Eye Jack Aug 3, 2019 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by Qrazy:
Originally posted by wattzup:
all i see for joystick support is generic joystick

Do you have any controllers plugged in also? PS4/XB1 etc. That could be causing issues. Steam game pad does some weird ♥♥♥♥ in certain games also with blocking out a HOTAS.
Agree. This could easily be the problem. Elite should recognize that stick automatically. No drivers needed.
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Lord Yoshi Aug 3, 2019 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by Qrazy:
Originally posted by wattzup:
all i see for joystick support is generic joystick

Do you have any controllers plugged in also? PS4/XB1 etc. That could be causing issues. Steam game pad does some weird ♥♥♥♥ in certain games also with blocking out a HOTAS.

No i do not
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<Caeris↝ Aug 3, 2019 @ 4:13pm 
Deinstall T.A.R.G.E.T, reinstall it, reboot your computer and try it again. It can sometimes happen that dll files generate after rebooting.
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Lord Yoshi Aug 3, 2019 @ 4:23pm 
Caeris, I can not install TARGET because it is asking for tmclass.dll, and i try to install drivers from the website and when i try to install it does nothing
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Qrazy Aug 3, 2019 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by wattzup:
Caeris, I can not install TARGET because it is asking for tmclass.dll, and i try to install drivers from the website and when i try to install it does nothing
This is exactly how I did it. I plugged in the HOTAS when my PC was off. Then I started it as I normally would and win 10 did the rest. I've never used any of the TARGET or TM software.
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<Caeris↝ Aug 3, 2019 @ 6:06pm 
Originally posted by wattzup:
Caeris, I can not install TARGET because it is asking for tmclass.dll, and i try to install drivers from the website and when i try to install it does nothing

What does your device manager says ?
Do you have in System Devices a Thrustmaster Bus Enumerator ?
Is there an unknown device (Ex. in Other devices) ?
Also, did you tried to change the usb slot ?


Edit:

You´re not alone with this problem.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/clm0fd/thrustmaster_t16000mfcs_target_installation/?ref=readnext


Possible solution:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/problems-with-t-a-r-g-e-t-since-last-windows-10-up
Last edited by <Caeris↝; Aug 3, 2019 @ 6:24pm
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funkynutz Aug 3, 2019 @ 6:38pm 
Don't install TARGET or any other crap... You don't need it.

MOST likely scenario is steam overlay is conflicting. It's a known issue that's been around for a few years now.

To test if I'm right: Go to the folder where the game is installed. Run the EDLaunch file (DON'T use your steam shortcut). Try to configure your joystick in the game settings. If it works, I'm right, which takes us to the fix...

THE FIX: Right click the game's shortcut in your Steam library and select properties. Disable the steam input option (forced off).

Last edited by funkynutz; Aug 3, 2019 @ 6:41pm
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Bubba Fett Aug 3, 2019 @ 9:02pm 
I've got sort of the same issue with my t16000 hotas.
When I first got it I just plugged in the stick and throttle and started using them. Windows sees generic game controllers.
Then I wanted access to the deadzone control of the thrustmaster driver and downloaded it from their site.
Seemed to install normally, but in settings I still saw the generic windows controller interface. Un-installed the driver then chose to run the install program in administrator mode. Now the TM interface shows up for the throttle, but the stick still shows the generic windows interface.
Thrustmaster tech support was pretty useless and even after I sent them a long description of the problem with screenshots, they replied asking for video. Not sure what they want a video of, maybe the unboxing or plugging it into my USB ports.
Anyways, it works well enough the way it is and all of the buttons and axis are seen in all of my games so I sort of gave up on the issue.

When you use the stick with ED or other games, you're probably going to want to program the button assignments yourself so you know what they do, so I'd just choose the generic option and start doing your setup.

One other strange issue that I've had is button 2 muting the sound in windows. This was my secondary fire and sometimes it does it and sometimes not. It only happens in Elite Dangerous and I saw threads on the Frontier forums of others with the same issue so it seems to be a game bug and not a hardware bug. I finally just stopped using that button.
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Lord Yoshi Aug 4, 2019 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by FunkynutZ:
Don't install TARGET or any other crap... You don't need it.

MOST likely scenario is steam overlay is conflicting. It's a known issue that's been around for a few years now.

To test if I'm right: Go to the folder where the game is installed. Run the EDLaunch file (DON'T use your steam shortcut). Try to configure your joystick in the game settings. If it works, I'm right, which takes us to the fix...

THE FIX: Right click the game's shortcut in your Steam library and select properties. Disable the steam input option (forced off).



Ya this option is the option that got me running the game with the joystick, but the game itself only sees it as generic joystick and i have to change the bindings. What im getting at is , i thought elite dangerous already had a t16000 profile that would be named as so in the controls. Im still new to joysticks on modern day, and ive gotta say they need to make em a little bit more user friendly in games lol
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