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I brought it up specifically because the OP had asked about voice attack in another thread, and I explained to him there some things about making commands. I followed that up here with some info regarding voice attack and auto jumping from a station.
Is that OK with you? If you have an issue with me trying to help others, should I stop?
Eve uses keyboard keys, mouse buttons or joystick buttons, right? So does Elite. Voice attack would interact exactly the same with both games in that it can push mouse buttons, keys or joystick buttons for you. You could set it to fibre wire a bad guy in Hitman if you wanted.
See, with your last post, you have made it clear that you do not know how voice attack actually works; I should of picked this up earlier when you misunderstood me, it's because you don't know how to use it or what it does :)
Yet here you are sticking the boot into something you are not familiar with. I did that at school, about 25 years ago.
Again, what is 'similar to EVE' about how Voice Attack interacts with Elite? Is anything of what you're describing similar to how the autopilot works in EVE?
Look up Microsoft Sidewinder Game Voic - or any other voice recognition software/hardware package, these were endemic during the late 90s/early 2000s. Does Voice attack do the same thing? Yeah? Wow, it's like this stuff has been around forever. But i appreciate you trying to flaunt your knowledge. It's endearing.
Let me spell it out for you: Voice Attack does nothing OP asked for. It doesn't 'magically' add autopilot functionality as in EVE. It can't. The only thing it can do is emulate a controller and give feedback to user input.
I already said that. It can be set to auto jump one time from the station. That's still true. You were the first one to ask about it lining up the direction automatically and *that is not what the OP asks*. You beautifully derailed the actual question - which was about jumping and not direction - and I sensed your hostility, but tried to answer you anyway ; my mistake.
What you have spelled out is your ignorance of voice attack (comparing something with the tech nowadays to the late 90s is just plain alarming), as well as your dislike of it.
You are free to not like it, but most people try to understand the actual thing they dislike and not argue based on info they remember from twenty years ago. That's embarrassing for you, as voice attack does more, quite a bit more, than simply emulating a controller and giving feedback.
You could find out for yourself what it does, but that seems a bit much of an effort for you - and isn't it easier just to not bother and post uninformed opinions here?
Exactly. There is nothing you can do with voice attack that constitutes this. You always have to be there, present, to control the ship, be it with voice or hands.
It cannot be used to do this, it's not possible to use it to violate that paragraph.
So no hack, agreed? I'm sure I read somewhere that Mr Braben himself is partial to it on occasion. I can't back that up though, it was read in passing only, and a while ago now.
That's not 'similar to EVE'. It's like saying something works 0.1% of the time, so it's similar to something that works every time. That's willfully misrepresenting what OP asked for to make out Voice Attack as something it's not.
The question was about auto-jumping similar to EVE. The autopilot lining up your ship is part of that, on account of EVE having jump-gates - you can't simply jump betweens systems by yourself (except cyno-jumping, but that's not automated). Let me guess, you've never even played EVE Online? No wonder you're getting so defensive about this.
Wow, it's like you didn't bring up 25 year old tech first to prove your own point. Talk about being ignorant.
Late 90's tech let you bind control inputs to Voice Commands. Has that changed? No? Wow. It's like this is the same crap all over again, only that you have to spent less time on training the software to recognize your voice.
Again, hilarious you are getting defensive about 'old tech' when i bring it up, but it's okay if you do it.
Do i need to point you to the Voice Attack website[www.voiceattack.com] on what the software can do? It's emulating a controller (could do that in 90s), let's you create macros (could do that in the 90s), let's you activate said macros with a button press (could that in the 90s, and i still don't understand why that's supposed to be feature) and give feedback (could that in the 90s). The only thing the added are more macro options and that dynamic text-to-speech engine for geeky replies.
Do i need to spell it out for you again? Voice Attack does not magically add an autopilot to ED like in EVE. What you are describing is not even similar. You are talking about automating a single button press on exiting a station if the station is pefectly lines up with your target destination and your destination is one jump away. OP is talking about automating a whole journey. Is that possible using Voice Attack? No? Great we cleared that up.
OP asked for a Tesla. You're trying to sell him a 70s Ford with cruise control, because they're *just the same* on an empty, perfectly straight highway.
I said in my first or second post that you cannot do what the OP asked,, it's not feasible, but there is an option to do a jump automatically from every station launch, but you still have to line it up, but it takes too long with va. There is nothing disingenuous about that, and I think that if someone is using va, like the OP, then that is valid info for him, even though it is not specifically what he asked. I should think that that comes across as helpful?
You've came along, poked at me, poked some more, and then tried to call me out. What exactly is your problem?
Did you know that va can use triggers to ask you things, like asking to raise and lower the landing gear at the correct time, asking you whether to deploy weapons, identify who is attacking you, ask if you want to dock then do it, tell you the names of all your ships and their value both with and without your modules, tell you jokes, suggest what commoditys are competitively priced at each market you dock at,select a random number between two set numbers to initiate a command, tell you the potential profit of what's in your hold if you sell it at a station you just landed at, name check every station in the game that you visit, activate and control external plug ins, remind you on starting up the game about any missions you have outstanding and tell you how long is left before they expire, tell you where or how to get every single commodity or raw material or data, tell you where every engineer lives and offers to set a course there, guide you through a complete station to station run of rares culminating in suggesting a good station to sell them at for maximum profit, play and stop music or radio channels, give details about any system you are in, tell you the next mission station name, how many jumps to a destination? There's more, a lot more, the very least it does is emulate a controller and give feedback.
It may be the case that you just don't like me or my posts, but you'd be better off saying that off the bat, because arguing about something like this is futile: you don't like it, I do, it is a battle of opinions neither of us will win.
There are a few people in here whose posts l like to read on all topics; you were one, often giving quite insightful and humerous posts, but I won't be looking for them now. You've lost me here with your unnecessary aggression.
I'll be on my way now.
I was not aware that OP was using VA, and he didn't ask for a VA implementation. He asked for an autopilot 'similar to EVE'. What you propose is neither an autopilot, nor is it in any way similar to EVE.
That you try to make out VA as something it isn't. OP asked for a specific functionality.
Your reply was 'yeah sure, VA can do that, but only in 0.1% of the use cases you might have for that funtionality.
As far as i am concerned that is disingenuous - you say VA can do something, but invalidate that in the very next paragraph. How is that not misleading? Again, i admit that i wasn't aware at the time that OP was even using VA, and you were probably not aware what 'similar to eve online' ment.
I've watched the youtube videos. FYI, that's not Voice Attack - that's EDDI. Voice Attack only outputs EDDI inputs, and EDDI provides the necessary variables. Again, good of you trying to oversell VA. This is the extended macro funtionality i mentioned. As far as i can tell this in itself isn't groundbreaking either. VA just knows that people are going to shill the crap out of the software. ED isn't nearly complex enough to justify using voice commands for anything if you have a decent HOTAS. It's made for console controllers for crying out loud.
They even suggest throwing out other hardware so you can use their macro inputs. Why in the world would i want to replace my HOTAS or other input hardware in favor of VA? Voice commands have a place, but VA services a niche within a niche and they are trying - extremely hard - to construct use cases and oversell functionality. This is the same problem that has plagued voice command software since it's inception. It's just not practical in the majority of cases and you're better off using traditional inputs. See your proposal in this very thread to use VA as an autopilot.
I don't like people who shill niche-use software. I like people even less who try to oversell said niche-use software. In addition you are trying to credit VA with something that depends solely on non-commercial third party software. A lot of people would even consider buying VA for Elite if it wasn't for the effort people put into EDDB and EDDI.
And that is supposed to...make me feel bad? I am not a politician. I am not here to appease people. I'm going to continue to provide insightful and humerous posts going forward as i see fit. I'm pretty sure there are people out there who appreaciate my input but who aren't acting like used-car salesmen, and i am going to call out those that are.