thrusters

[DreamWalker]

for exploration purpose which engineer mod better for thrusters clean or dirty?

[HamakiBCN2]

Nevermind what i said before. Power Draw is the same in both.

I'd say then that i would do either no mod whatsoever, or reinforced.

Edit: unless the plan is to undersize the thrusters themselves. Then maybe i would go Clean but keepinjg an eye on power usage.

[<Caeris↝]

Go for dirty drive, because you´ve got more speed and integrity is 1% better than from clean ones.

Experimental effect would be "Stripped Down" for a little better jump range.

[One Eye Jack]

I use clean drive and engine focused for exploration. You don't need weapons at all and you don't really need shields either. And as has been said use stripped down for the experimental effect.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

It depends on what thrusters you equip at the first place. I usually put Clean so the ship runs cooler - easier to fuel scoop or to play with Black Holes.

Keep in mind that any thrusters will let you to escape any planet's gravity. So you might as well put the smallest ones possible, and use the Clean engineering to reduce the ship's heat.

Further stripping down already the smallest thrusters wouldn't give you that much of a weight reduction to be noticeable for your jump range. But you can go there, too.

[malorob]

different ships also run hotter and sum cooler so another thing to think about.

which ship you are going for.

are you going planet explore or just space explore"all these play a big part in your build"

best advice i can give is go on a short explore and test what you like and then turn ur build.
dont forget repair limpet as well as afmu

[semidomestic]

Although any A rated thruster will let you escape a planet's gravity, Dirty drives with drive distributors will run cooler than drag, and will help when aborting a hard landing on a larger planet, especially if you're shieldless.

[Petrus Magnus]

Originally posted by TenthEye:

for exploration purpose which engineer mod better for thrusters clean or dirty?

It's more a per ship/personal preference decision then one is definitely better then the other.

Clean:

• Its a small ship (can overheat faster)
  
• Its a fast ship (no need for more speed)
  
• Shield always on (aside from wasting power it will overheat easier)
  
• Sloppy jumping/refueling habits or maybe you just like sun bathing =)

Dirty:

• Lets face it your a speed demon at heart :)
  
• Big ship (it heats up slowly so why not have more speed)
  
• Slow ship (compensating for low normal space speed)
  
• Shieldless or shields off unless needed (heats up slower)

Personally I favor dirty but then most of my exploration runs are in a shieldless Anaconda that is slow in normal space and next to impossible to unintentionally overheat.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by semidomestic:

Although any A rated thruster will let you escape a planet's gravity,

Any thrusters will let you escape a planet, even the smallest for your mass E-rated ones.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

• Lets face it your a speed demon at heart :)
  
• Big ship (it heats up slowly so why not have more speed)
  
• Slow ship (compensating for low normal space speed)

How often you are running anywhere when exploring, that more thrusters speed will be preferable over a lower ship's temperature? ;)

[Petrus Magnus]

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

• Lets face it your a speed demon at heart :)
  
• Big ship (it heats up slowly so why not have more speed)
  
• Slow ship (compensating for low normal space speed)

How often you are running anywhere when exploring, that more thrusters speed will be preferable over a lower ship's temperature? ;)

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

...shieldless Anaconda that is slow in normal space and next to impossible to unintentionally overheat.

If your ship already runs like a fridge making it like a freezer is superfluous.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

If your ship already runs like a fridge making it like a freezer is superfluous.

Every temperature reduction helps. Fuel scooping at the max rate is just one of the reasons. High-G planets tend to produce a lot of thrusters' heat on ascend. Going inside the Event horizon of Black Holes. Even escaping an accident of crashing into a star. I've done it all above, and I was glad that my Orca was as cool as I made it to be.

As for the speed in normal space while exploring? That's what superfluous, when most of your time you spend in supercruise.

[Realigo Actual]

PVE Clean is pretty good

PVP only dirty

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by Actual Sprinkle Taters:

PVP only dirty

PvP while exploring?..

[Petrus Magnus]

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

Originally posted by Petrus Magnus:

If your ship already runs like a fridge making it like a freezer is superfluous.

Every temperature reduction helps. Fuel scooping at the max rate is just one of the reasons. High-G planets tend to produce a lot of thrusters' heat on ascend. Going inside the Event horizon of Black Holes. Even escaping an accident of crashing into a star. I've done it all above, and I was glad that my Orca was as cool as I made it to be.

As for the speed in normal space while exploring? That's what superfluous, when most of your time you spend in supercruise.

I am sorry I had no idea temperature reduction was so important you. For me it's just an engineering call:

if (ship runs hot=true)
{
	make cool
}
else
{
	make fast
}

In the case of the above mentioned ship it can refuel in 25s thanks to a 7A fuel scoop so temperature is a nonissue.

I have landed on all the known record highest G planets and many others (its something of a diversion for me to find & land on them when exploring) and have not encountered the "heat on ascend" problem.

Likewise I have "kissed" the exclusion zones of a number of Black Holes and while temperatures were elevated they remained within acceptable parameters.

In regards to the "accident of crashing into a star" I have done that a grand total one time in thousands of jumps: my very first jump in ED in a stock sidewinder and managed to survive the ordeal.

So I guess if temperature reduction is your obsession then more power to you it takes all kinds. For my part I am OCD about jump range though apparently not to the same extent as you with cool running.

[Mr Robert House]

G1 clean then the reduced mass experimental, no disadvantages that way and no unnecessary farming. Low emissions power plants in exploration ships usually fix the heat problem on their own, if you turn all those pesky systems off