Elite Dangerous

Elite Dangerous

Black Rain 2016 年 12 月 24 日 上午 10:02
Is there a way to free slaves?
Is there a actuall gamplay way to free slaves? Especialy seeing new content with passanger updates. Also how does serving in power play for anti slavery Alisia Duval (i think her name was) influence plyer with slavery? I mean what if i serve her in power play and find slaves after destroying ship?
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Legion 2016 年 12 月 25 日 上午 5:38 
引用自 狼 Wolfey
Most Imperial slaves enslaved themselves by choice. Slavery in the Empire is voluntary - a bit like a Work for the Dole scheme. Criminals and those badly in debt can spend a fixed period of broing, menial labour in exchange for their debts being forgiven.

The Imperial Slave system is also exploited by predator multinationals to get their hands on some free labor. There is a system of legality built around slavery in the Empire but like any legal system it can be exploited, and those on the top have far more insulation than those on the bottom. Slaves in any culture regardless of any rampant legalism are the most vulnerable people to predatory individuals. It may be Imperial culture, but not all cultures are created equal or are worthy of respect.

Ultimately it's a fictional world where Slaves (imperial or otherwise) are just cylindrical space jars that we move by units of metric tons from one station to another for a couple thousand credits profit per ton. They could be crates of Tea, Reactive Armour, or Leesti Evil Juice for all I care because there is no deep cause and effect or crime and punishment system set up. You won't get ostracized by the Alliance for trafficking in slaves, and you won't get kicked out of the Federal Navy for flying your Federation warship under the Imperial flag.

There probably ought to be ways to turn slaves, recovered life pods, or other contraband over to the authorities at the expense of reputation or something from other factions, but until something like that gets implemented you might as well make bank going A-B.
TiberiuS 2016 年 12 月 25 日 上午 5:44 
引用自 LedoCool
引用自 M.Spengler

Slavery is part of the imperial culture.
Citizens in dept prefer to sell themself into slavery than to live in shame.

No, no. Imperial slavery is fine. I'm speaking about non-imperial slaves exactly which, I believe, were freed by Aisling.
No, Aisling is against slavery in general. She also "frees" imperial slaves, which is kind of an idiocy. "Freeing" them from slavery will not make their debt go away, it will not make them free at all. If anything they are honorless then and considered the scum of the imperial society. They won't get food or a place to live... maybe Aisling will give them, but everywhere else?!

Freeing imperial slaves that went into slavery through corruption and intrigue might be a different matter, which goes in line with the imperial law and the will of the Emperor (Arissa Lavigny-Duval is strictly against corruption; see her PP page) ... or the poor "real" slaves often traded in independant and federation systems.
Legion 2016 年 12 月 25 日 上午 5:45 
引用自 TiberiuS
引用自 LedoCool

No, no. Imperial slavery is fine. I'm speaking about non-imperial slaves exactly which, I believe, were freed by Aisling.
No, Aisling is against slavery in general. She also "frees" imperial slaves, which is kind of an idiocy. "Freeing" them from slavery will not make their debt go away, it will not make them free at all. If anything they are honorless then and considered the scum of the imperial society. They won't get food or a place to live... maybe Aisling will give them, but everywhere else?!

Freeing imperial slaves that went into slavery through corruption and intrigue might be a different matter, which goes in line with the imperial law and the will of the Emperor (Arissa Lavigny-Duval is strictly against corruption; see her PP page) ... or the poor "real" slaves often traded in independant and federation systems.

Aisling's method of freeing slaves is by basically paying off their debt. Remember she has bucketloads of cash an a ton of wealthy backers.
Frank K 2016 年 12 月 25 日 上午 6:58 
The best way to end slavery is to join the Federation and work with us to destroy the Empire advancing freedom one system at a time. But there are also missions that allow you to pose as a slaver, when in actuality you are spiriting those poor souls to feedom.
clobbertime 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:03 
引用自 Frank K
The best way to end slavery is to join the Federation and work with us to destroy the Empire advancing freedom one system at a time. But there are also missions that allow you to pose as a slaver, when in actuality you are spiriting those poor souls to feedom.
Except for all those Fed contacts wanting you to bring in some slaves.
Frank K 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:15 
引用自 clobbertime
引用自 Frank K
The best way to end slavery is to join the Federation and work with us to destroy the Empire advancing freedom one system at a time. But there are also missions that allow you to pose as a slaver, when in actuality you are spiriting those poor souls to feedom.
Except for all those Fed contacts wanting you to bring in some slaves.
Even in the Federation there are those who prize profit above human dignity. They are at least forced to work underground, accepting the shame, and subject to summary execution should they be discovered hauling human frieght. The Imperials boast about the practice and bask in the untold suffering they cause the poor souls in their cargo racks. To intimate there is no differance is disingenuous in the extreme.

Slavers die, it's the law.
Black Rain 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:46 
Does Alisia Duval buys standard non Imperial Slaves or is there not even rp way to free them other ther "trash it and imagine good things"
Frank K 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:56 
引用自 Black Rain
Does Alisia Duval buys standard non Imperial Slaves or is there not even rp way to free them other ther "trash it and imagine good things"
There's no mechanic to free slaves other than finding the occasional mission I mentioned above. Spacing them and RP'ing you set them free is viable, imho. You take the loss in credits, so for RP purposes it works! It would be nice to have a game mechanic, it could keep track of the number of poor souls you had delivered to freedom.
最後修改者:Frank K; 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:56
TiberiuS 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 7:29 
引用自 Frank K
It would be nice to have a game mechanic, it could keep track of the number of poor souls you had delivered to freedom.
I rather count the number of poor souls i delivered to justice. (4361 atm) :summerskull::Doviculus:
Frank K 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 9:08 
引用自 TiberiuS
引用自 Frank K
It would be nice to have a game mechanic, it could keep track of the number of poor souls you had delivered to freedom.
I rather count the number of poor souls i delivered to justice. (4361 atm) :summerskull::Doviculus:
You should refrain from being so bold as to brag of your crimes to an agent of the Federation. Your crimes have been noted, reported and a summary execution order issued. I hope to meet with you personally for resolution of this matter.
Legion 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 9:32 
引用自 Frank K
引用自 clobbertime
Except for all those Fed contacts wanting you to bring in some slaves.
Even in the Federation there are those who prize profit above human dignity. They are at least forced to work underground, accepting the shame, and subject to summary execution should they be discovered hauling human frieght. The Imperials boast about the practice and bask in the untold suffering they cause the poor souls in their cargo racks. To intimate there is no differance is disingenuous in the extreme.

Slavers die, it's the law.

Except that there are many Federal worlds on which Slavery is legal (Dictatorships usually).

Edit: also the entire premise of the Federation is Profit before Dignity. It's a crony capitalist paradise.
最後修改者:Legion; 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 10:23
TiberiuS 2016 年 12 月 26 日 上午 10:11 
引用自 Frank K
引用自 TiberiuS
I rather count the number of poor souls i delivered to justice. (4361 atm) :summerskull::Doviculus:
You should refrain from being so bold as to brag of your crimes to an agent of the Federation. Your crimes have been noted, reported and a summary execution order issued. I hope to meet with you personally for resolution of this matter.
Crimes?! Pah!
All of those 4361 pilots had a bounty issued on them. Lots of them also by the Federation.
Frank K 2016 年 12 月 26 日 下午 12:09 
引用自 TiberiuS
引用自 Frank K
You should refrain from being so bold as to brag of your crimes to an agent of the Federation. Your crimes have been noted, reported and a summary execution order issued. I hope to meet with you personally for resolution of this matter.
Crimes?! Pah!
All of those 4361 pilots had a bounty issued on them. Lots of them also by the Federation.
My player faction works tirelessly spreading democracy, to eliminate slavers from Feeral space. The Galaxy is a large chaotic mix of ideologies, the Federation can not force every system to abandon despotism immediately, we free humanity one system at a time. We have closed slave markets in several system and will never cease our efforts.
最後修改者:Frank K; 2016 年 12 月 26 日 下午 12:10
Black Rain 2016 年 12 月 26 日 下午 12:15 
I belive i will do the same :) after i get my pocket cruiser (python) i will be force to be reconed with tho Democracy is not my goal i much prefere other systems, ending slavery is so i guess thats the best way to do it :)
Ray Robertson 2016 年 12 月 26 日 下午 12:46 
Slaves are produced by in Anarchy controlled Industrial economies and Imperial slaves by the Empire. It is a lot of changing in governments you will need to do. Not a one man job, for sure.
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