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Tyrael Raven 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 10:42
Strategies for fighting Thargoid Interceptors?
Soooo I may have decided to try taking out a Thargoid interceptor.

A couple notes from my first combat encounter with one:
-This was probably not a great idea
-Scanning the drone swarm does not actually do anything, as someone in another thread claimed
-Yeah, this was almost definitely a poor decision
-Once combat has begun, the Interceptors are too fast, it's far too late to scan the ship due to the AX Xeno Scanners 500m range limit
-It is extremely difficult to hit a target moving at 500 m/s with dumbfire Aegis rockets
-I regret my life choices at this time
-Interceptors have a 30x mass disruption factor, you are absolutely not going to survive FSD warm-up
-I do not recommend picking fights with Thargoids

Has anyone else had much for success in fighting them, and if so, what course of action did you take as far as tactics?

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TiberiuS 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 10:52 
引用自 Tyrael Raven
-Once combat has begun, the Interceptors are too fast, it's far too late to scan the ship due to the AX Xeno Scanners 500m range limit
I did that yesterday when we were fighting a Thargoid in a wing and the first CMDR didn't scan the ship before starting PewPew...
But I was in an extremely fast and maneuverable Asp... in a more heavy ship that's impossible I think.

We killed 2 btw.
最后由 TiberiuS 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 10:53
Tyrael Raven 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 10:56 
引用自 TiberiuS
引用自 Tyrael Raven
-Once combat has begun, the Interceptors are too fast, it's far too late to scan the ship due to the AX Xeno Scanners 500m range limit
I did that yesterday when we were fighting a Thargoid in a wing and the first CMDR didn't scan the ship before starting PewPew...
But I was in an extremely fast and maneuverable Asp... in a more heavy ship that's impossible I think.

We killed 2 btw.

Yeah I was kind of wondering about that, being in a Federal Dropship probably isn't doing me any favors. The armor and weapons loadout capacity is great and all, but the thing handles like a refrigerator full of bricks, trying to keep the Interceptor in LoS was just about impossible
最后由 Tyrael Raven 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 10:56
TiberiuS 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:02 
As for tactics:

- Scan the ship
- it apparently has some basic shielding, you need to remove that and then you can shoot the heart. Or maybe it's only a panic shield when one heart is destroyed.
- maybe you need to actually do some damage to the ship first so the heart is "exhausted" and shoot it then... not sure.
- after killing one heart take care. It gets more fierce every time one is killed. When the third is killed it uses the EMP to shut you down for 20s... good times.
- Watch the corrosion cloud when it pops :summerskull:

Killing one alone is pretty much impossible. If it doesn't kill you you will eventually run out of ammo.

With the asp I had to stay out the line of fire and do zoom and boom attacks... the Corvette and Condas tanked the damage.
最后由 TiberiuS 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:03
Nut 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:16 
1: Scan and sub-target a heart
2: Unleash all hell (AX missiles and whatever other weapons you got)
3: Once enough damage has been done, a random heart will start to glow, switch subtargets
until it's focused on that one, or no need if you've already got it targeted.
4: Once the heart is destroyed it will gain a shield. You do not need the AX missiles to bring
the shield down, normal weapons are fine.
5: Once the shield is down, repeat from step 2.

As someone else mentioned, avoid the caustic cloud when it dies, that ♥♥♥♥ is nasty.
最后由 Nut 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:16
Turd Ferguson 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:19 
at this point, I don't think fighting even the "friendly" goids is a single-player endeavor.
最后由 Turd Ferguson 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:19
TiberiuS 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:19 
引用自 Nut
1: Scan and sub-target a heart
2: Unleash all hell (AX missiles and whatever other weapons you got)
3: Once enough damage has been done, a random heart will start to glow, switch subtargets
until it's focused on that one, or no need if you've already got it targeted.
4: Once the heart is destroyed it will gain a shield. You do not need the AX missiles to bring
the shield down, normal weapons are fine.
5: Once the shield is down, repeat from step 2.

As someone else mentioned, avoid the caustic cloud when it dies, that ♥♥♥♥ is nasty.
some viable info there. :steamhappy:
Turd Ferguson 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:20 
引用自 Nut
1: Scan and sub-target a heart
2: Unleash all hell (AX missiles and whatever other weapons you got)
3: Once enough damage has been done, a random heart will start to glow, switch subtargets
until it's focused on that one, or no need if you've already got it targeted.
4: Once the heart is destroyed it will gain a shield. You do not need the AX missiles to bring
the shield down, normal weapons are fine.
5: Once the shield is down, repeat from step 2.

As someone else mentioned, avoid the caustic cloud when it dies, that ♥♥♥♥ is nasty.

i've been wondering if you can send a limpet to collect the stuff in the cloud after death....

Also, once one of the hearts starts glowing, AX weapons are not necessary to shoot the heart. regular weapons can be used for that as well as the "shield" that gets generated when a hear is destroyed.
最后由 Turd Ferguson 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:21
Super Potato 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:29 
Just ran away from one at 30% hull on my anaconda.Managed to kill 2 hearts using regular weapons and ax missiles and my npc fighter for taking aggro. worst part is after the first heart kill when it goes all Palpatine on you with the lightning. That yellow pew pew takes shields and a good chunk of hull...
Turd Ferguson 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:33 
引用自 Gans Hruber
Just ran away from one at 30% hull on my anaconda.Managed to kill 2 hearts using regular weapons and ax missiles and my npc fighter for taking aggro. worst part is after the first heart kill when it goes all Palpatine on you with the lightning. That yellow pew pew takes shields and a good chunk of hull...

when it goes all Palpatine, you get a "charging warning"....can you break off and put some distance between you?
Tyrael Raven 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:34 
Cool, that's a lot of great information for fighting them. Definitely not doable solo, though.

I barely managed to knock out a heart before getting vaporized
Nut 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:34 
引用自 Turd Ferguson
引用自 Nut
1: Scan and sub-target a heart
2: Unleash all hell (AX missiles and whatever other weapons you got)
3: Once enough damage has been done, a random heart will start to glow, switch subtargets
until it's focused on that one, or no need if you've already got it targeted.
4: Once the heart is destroyed it will gain a shield. You do not need the AX missiles to bring
the shield down, normal weapons are fine.
5: Once the shield is down, repeat from step 2.

As someone else mentioned, avoid the caustic cloud when it dies, that ♥♥♥♥ is nasty.

i've been wondering if you can send a limpet to collect the stuff in the cloud after death....

Also, once one of the hearts starts glowing, AX weapons are not necessary to shoot the heart. regular weapons can be used for that as well as the "shield" that gets generated when a hear is destroyed.

Yes you can, I'm flying an FDL tho and my limpet is only class 3, so 1km range, it can just about get back to me before the caustic ♥♥♥♥ sticks to my hull.
Turd Ferguson 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:35 
引用自 Tyrael Raven
Cool, that's a lot of great information for fighting them. Definitely not doable solo, though.

I barely managed to knock out a heart before getting vaporized

just remember - (and this was more or less confirmed by Ed Lewis) there are at least TWO kinds of thargoids out there...and some of them are not really agressive an a lot easier to kill....those may be the ones we shouldn't be killing for....story reasons. The other ones (the darker ones) will kick your ass and have been seen wiping out multiple wings of players.
Turd Ferguson 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:36 
引用自 Nut
引用自 Turd Ferguson

i've been wondering if you can send a limpet to collect the stuff in the cloud after death....

Also, once one of the hearts starts glowing, AX weapons are not necessary to shoot the heart. regular weapons can be used for that as well as the "shield" that gets generated when a hear is destroyed.

Yes you can, I'm flying an FDL tho and my limpet is only class 3, so 1km range, it can just about get back to me before the caustic ♥♥♥♥ sticks to my hull.

good to know! so there IS a way to avoid the cooties.....does the stuff you pick up cause damage or is it just engineer materials that doesn't take up space?
最后由 Turd Ferguson 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:36
Super Potato 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:37 
引用自 Turd Ferguson
引用自 Gans Hruber
Just ran away from one at 30% hull on my anaconda.Managed to kill 2 hearts using regular weapons and ax missiles and my npc fighter for taking aggro. worst part is after the first heart kill when it goes all Palpatine on you with the lightning. That yellow pew pew takes shields and a good chunk of hull...

when it goes all Palpatine, you get a "charging warning"....can you break off and put some distance between you?

Not on my anaconda with unengineered drives... if you boost in time you should be able to i think
Tyrael Raven 2017 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:45 
引用自 Turd Ferguson
引用自 Tyrael Raven
Cool, that's a lot of great information for fighting them. Definitely not doable solo, though.

I barely managed to knock out a heart before getting vaporized

just remember - (and this was more or less confirmed by Ed Lewis) there are at least TWO kinds of thargoids out there...and some of them are not really agressive an a lot easier to kill....those may be the ones we shouldn't be killing for....story reasons. The other ones (the darker ones) will kick your ass and have been seen wiping out multiple wings of players.

Ah, that actually makes a lot of sense, I thought that this one seemed substantially stronger than the one I fought earlier. Even knowing the new information I felt like I got shot down far faster, so maybe it was the more difficult variant.

It showed up as a cyclops variant after a scan, so is that the more aggressive version, then?
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