Issues about route plotting

[Zzabur]

Not so important issues, but quite disappointing. When you have planned a route, and you logout/relog, replotting the same route ends....in a different route.

I don't know why, it has happened everytime during my travel for a few weeks, it sometimes ended in 30 more jumps !

Let me explain a bit clearer :

-I plotted a route of about 400 jumps.
-When i end the first day, let's say there is 350 jumps remaining.
-I logoff until the day after, relog and need to replot the route with EXACTLY same settings (fuel cargo full, same stuff, neutron jet use, and so on).
-The route is now 370 jumps remaining

It's always more jumps than when i logged off.

I tried to plot, unplot several times in the same session, and it ends again in different routes. Last example, yesterday i logged off with 47 jumps remaining, i relog today, the same route is now 50 jumps, i clear the route, then re-plot, it becomes 49 jumps, clear, re-plot, 46 jumps, clear, re-plot, 50 jumps.

WTF?

[Turd Ferguson]

fuel load?

[Zzabur]

Originally posted by Zzabur:

EXACTLY same settings (fuel cargo full

Also, i am trying atm, so i am in supercruise almost stopped, and it ends in different routes while the fuel cargo is the same (i guess it does not change so much in few seconds).

Also i sometimes ends in a shorter route, sometimes longer, not always longer, but always longer after relogging.

In my opinion, it's since the change done to route plotting up to 20K Ly, i guess their algorithm is not perfect, that's why it was so short before, and now it's up to 20K Ly but with flaws in AI poltting.

Edit : floating point unit errors?

[Turd Ferguson]

Originally posted by Zzabur:

Originally posted by Zzabur:

EXACTLY same settings (fuel cargo full

Also, i am trying atm, so i am in supercruise almost stopped, and it ends in different routes while the fuel cargo is the same (i guess it does not change so much in few seconds).

Also i sometimes ends in a shorter route, sometimes longer, not always longer, but always longer after relogging.

In my opinion, it's since the change done to route plotting up to 20K Ly, i guess their algorithm is not perfect, that's why it was so short before, and now it's up to 20K Ly but with flaws in AI poltting.

Edit : floating point unit errors?

I think the route is not saved, only the destination and recalculated. I guess the algorythm is fuzzy enough that it doesn't always turn out the same way. they said they changed something so it would plot faster. I guess it's that old saying: faster, cheaper, better. pick 2.

I find the neutron boost plotting to be very iffy. In some cases it's actually MORE jumps than without it because the computer tries to plot you through neutron stars.

[Zzabur]

My opinion is about the same, though it's sometimes very noticeable, i already had 30 more jumps on a 450 jumps route, this is 6-7% of the total distance.

It's very disappointing when you have explored 30 jumps to relog and think you've simply not played the last session lol. That's not true (because i have 30 jumps exploration datas), but it kills motivation.

[Turd Ferguson]

Originally posted by Zzabur:

My opinion is about the same, though it's sometimes very noticeable, i already had 30 more jumps on a 450 jumps route, this is 6-7% of the total distance.

It's very disappointing when you have explored 30 jumps to relog and think you've simply not played the last session lol. That's not true (because i have 30 jumps exploration datas), but it kills motivation.

I bet they're going to do some more tweaking on the plotting when the do the exploration overhaul....hopefully they won't have run everyone off by messing with the Thargoid stuff by then and there will still be players in the game.

[Wolf]

maybe the galaxy is moving? :)

[Turd Ferguson]

Originally posted by wolf:

maybe the galaxy is moving? :)

to where???

[Wolf]

Originally posted by Turd Ferguson:

Originally posted by wolf:

maybe the galaxy is moving? :)

to where???

i know you are being funny... but just in case lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F77MBqpkul8

[Zzabur]

Originally posted by wolf:

maybe the galaxy is moving? :)

Indeed it's turning, also rogue planets and stars ejected at high speed by black holes,and so on, but i think we can not notice it at our time scale. At the distance of Pluto, orbital period is about 250 years at only about 15000Ls, so i guess the orbital period of a system around Sagittarius A* can be billions of years.

So i doubt it has a great impact over 2 or 3 days, also i think that E:D doesn't even take this in account. planets and stars are orbiting inside their own systems, but not in the galaxy in Elite, i guess just because the galaxy map would look quite the same in 100years and players wouldn't even notice any change.

But that's not stupid, i thought about it too, before realizing it could not be the answer. Just because in few minutes, i get longer or shorter routes, if that was the explaination, it should only go in a single way, shorter OR longer.

Notice that in a few billion years, Andromeda's galaxy will hit and merge with our Milky way, but we would probably don't notice anything on Earth (if it still ever exists), except that the sky doesn't look the same as now.