Elite Dangerous

Elite Dangerous

Advice needed on engineering shield boosters
unlocked the engineer capable of grade 5 shield booster upgrades and I'm currently finishing pimping out my Anaconda. Current shield stats with 5x G5 Heavy Duty and 3x Thermal resistance boosters as follows:
Health: 2,556
Kinetic Resistance 42.2%
Themal Resistance 35.4%
Explosive Resistance 50.5%

Wondering if anyone has any advice towards any possible improvements.
Combat wise I mostly use my Anaconda for everything but combat zones (I have a FDL and Vulture for those) and I don't pvp, well not in my 'Conda wanyway, so do those stats seem ok or is there something I could improve on?

[Edit] Forgot to mention I'm using Bi-weave shield generator too, gotta love that regen rate
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Psyanide; 2017. ápr. 18., 18:28
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Nfected (Kitiltva) 2017. ápr. 18., 18:47 
Roll the heck outta G5 Thermal resist for shields - one secondary effect is increasing your regen rate

My Conda only has 702 Shields, but consists of 4xG3 Resistance augmented Boosters (Wanting to Unlock Didi soon). Broken Regen speed is about 30 seconds - Bi-Weaves as well

Honestly, I would try getting a bit more thermal resist - but I hull tank, so I stack resistances over strength
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Nfected; 2017. ápr. 18., 18:48
Psyanide (Kitiltva) 2017. ápr. 18., 19:03 
I haven't even touched hull upgrades yet but I do plan to later down the line, tbh I had 1741 shield health before with 5xG3 heavy duty boosters and there wasn't a great deal that could get me to use my shield cells (which I've swapped out for now to get the extra available power for the extra 3 boosters), I need to get some more rate materials to roll 2 more G5 Thermal resistances as I only had enough for 1 G5 and 2xG4, I was aiming to get to around 50% thermal resist as a goal.
I kinda want to shield tank as much as possible really, I'll be getting my SCB back once I've unlocked and upgraded my power plant to G5, at which point I'll have no choice but to swap out a booster for a Heatsink launcher.
There's gotta be a point where shield health is less important than thermal resistance. I just don't know where that begins.
Psyanide (Kitiltva) 2017. ápr. 18., 19:26 
Dave1029 eredeti hozzászólása:
There's gotta be a point where shield health is less important than thermal resistance. I just don't know where that begins.
Well, if my thinking is critical enough I think my boosters +50-55% shield boost is static to your base stock shield value, so each of my boosters give 50-55% of 700, whereas resistance applies to your whole modified shield value which increases your effective shield value to that specific damage so in my case 2,556+35%=3,450 effective shields against thermal, but I could be wrong.

[edit] Plus resistance stacking will get deminishing returns at some point, and if my time playing MMOs in the past like wow has taught me anything it's that balancing diminishing returns on stats with static values that are applied to them can pay off more than just stacking and stacking diminishing returns. I think some experimenting is in order 3...2....1... FOR SCIENCE!
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Psyanide; 2017. ápr. 18., 19:29
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There's gotta be a point where shield health is less important than thermal resistance. I just don't know where that begins.
Well, if my thinking is critical enough I think my boosters +50-55% shield boost is static to your base stock shield value, so each of my boosters give 50-55% of 700, whereas resistance applies to your whole modified shield value which increases your effective shield value to that specific damage so in my case 2,556+35%=3,450 effective shields against thermal, but I could be wrong.
I imagine having 2 focusing on raw strength and 2 making up for the base thermal resistance makes sense.
Nfected (Kitiltva) 2017. ápr. 18., 19:31 
Psyanide eredeti hozzászólása:
I haven't even touched hull upgrades yet but I do plan to later down the line, tbh I had 1741 shield health before with 5xG3 heavy duty boosters and there wasn't a great deal that could get me to use my shield cells (which I've swapped out for now to get the extra available power for the extra 3 boosters), I need to get some more rate materials to roll 2 more G5 Thermal resistances as I only had enough for 1 G5 and 2xG4, I was aiming to get to around 50% thermal resist as a goal.
I kinda want to shield tank as much as possible really, I'll be getting my SCB back once I've unlocked and upgraded my power plant to G5, at which point I'll have no choice but to swap out a booster for a Heatsink launcher.

Ruthenium (if that's what you need) can be found on the same planet Lei Cheung is on iirc



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There's gotta be a point where shield health is less important than thermal resistance. I just don't know where that begins.
Well, if my thinking is critical enough I think my boosters +50-55% shield boost is static to your base stock shield value, so each of my boosters give 50-55% of 700, whereas resistance applies to your whole modified shield value which increases your effective shield value to that specific damage so in my case 2,556+35%=3,450 effective shields against thermal, but I could be wrong.

You're correct, yes



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Psyanide eredeti hozzászólása:
Well, if my thinking is critical enough I think my boosters +50-55% shield boost is static to your base stock shield value, so each of my boosters give 50-55% of 700, whereas resistance applies to your whole modified shield value which increases your effective shield value to that specific damage so in my case 2,556+35%=3,450 effective shields against thermal, but I could be wrong.
I imagine having 2 focusing on raw strength and 2 making up for the base thermal resistance makes sense.

You either basically Stack shield strength, or stack resistances. The former is better for pure shield tanking (Prismatic + reinforced, and heavy duty boosters everywhere). Resistance stacks resistances (duh) while keeping shields fast on recharge (such as Bi weaves and Class D boosters with resistance augmented mods)

In my case, I can get away without an SCB because I dont really need it considering it's faster to let them regen on their own. I carry one for emergencies
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Nfected; 2017. ápr. 18., 19:32
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Psyanide eredeti hozzászólása:
I haven't even touched hull upgrades yet but I do plan to later down the line, tbh I had 1741 shield health before with 5xG3 heavy duty boosters and there wasn't a great deal that could get me to use my shield cells (which I've swapped out for now to get the extra available power for the extra 3 boosters), I need to get some more rate materials to roll 2 more G5 Thermal resistances as I only had enough for 1 G5 and 2xG4, I was aiming to get to around 50% thermal resist as a goal.
I kinda want to shield tank as much as possible really, I'll be getting my SCB back once I've unlocked and upgraded my power plant to G5, at which point I'll have no choice but to swap out a booster for a Heatsink launcher.

Ruthenium (if that's what you need) can be found on the same planet Lei Cheung is on iirc



Psyanide eredeti hozzászólása:
Well, if my thinking is critical enough I think my boosters +50-55% shield boost is static to your base stock shield value, so each of my boosters give 50-55% of 700, whereas resistance applies to your whole modified shield value which increases your effective shield value to that specific damage so in my case 2,556+35%=3,450 effective shields against thermal, but I could be wrong.

You're correct, yes



Dave1029 eredeti hozzászólása:
I imagine having 2 focusing on raw strength and 2 making up for the base thermal resistance makes sense.

You either basically Stack shield strength, or stack resistances. The former is better for pure shield tanking (Prismatic + reinforced, and heavy duty boosters everywhere). Resistance stacks resistances (duh) while keeping shields fast on recharge (such as Bi weaves and Class D boosters with resistance augmented mods)
So Bi-Weaves should have basically all resistance, Grade A's should have a couple of resistance to avoid diminishing returns?
Nfected (Kitiltva) 2017. ápr. 18., 19:35 
Dave1029 eredeti hozzászólása:
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Ruthenium (if that's what you need) can be found on the same planet Lei Cheung is on iirc





You're correct, yes





You either basically Stack shield strength, or stack resistances. The former is better for pure shield tanking (Prismatic + reinforced, and heavy duty boosters everywhere). Resistance stacks resistances (duh) while keeping shields fast on recharge (such as Bi weaves and Class D boosters with resistance augmented mods)
So Bi-Weaves should have basically all resistance, Grade A's should have a couple of resistance to avoid diminishing returns?

Basically, yes. In a similar concept to do you want to protect your ship with lots of shields or lots of resistances (which equates to lots of shields by effective resistance)

Base shields are -20% resistance to thermal. You either:
A: Stack shields to have more to take more thermic damage
B: Resistance up to take less from thermic damage

Either school of thought results in a similar amount of effective shielding - recharge rates will wildly differ

That being said, you can go for any range in the middle. I stick with Bi weaves and hi resistances for faster recovery. If you go maxing strength, you'll need SCBs
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Nfected; 2017. ápr. 18., 19:54
Psyanide (Kitiltva) 2017. ápr. 18., 20:49 
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Psyanide eredeti hozzászólása:
I haven't even touched hull upgrades yet but I do plan to later down the line, tbh I had 1741 shield health before with 5xG3 heavy duty boosters and there wasn't a great deal that could get me to use my shield cells (which I've swapped out for now to get the extra available power for the extra 3 boosters), I need to get some more rate materials to roll 2 more G5 Thermal resistances as I only had enough for 1 G5 and 2xG4, I was aiming to get to around 50% thermal resist as a goal.
I kinda want to shield tank as much as possible really, I'll be getting my SCB back once I've unlocked and upgraded my power plant to G5, at which point I'll have no choice but to swap out a booster for a Heatsink launcher.

Ruthenium (if that's what you need) can be found on the same planet Lei Cheung is on iirc


For G5 Thermal resistance booster upgrades its Heat Exchangers, which according to INARA are found either as slavage from transport ships or found in signal sources in anarcy systems, however I was wrong they are not rare but standard so I don't think it'll cause me too much trouble, I have plenty of the other items needed though. As I'm primarily a bounty hunter/assassin/law enforcer for the federation I guess I dont get the opportunity to space enough transport ships..... I'm usually saving/avenging their sorry backsides xD

Really need to start moving towards G5 pulse laser upgrades soon though, but then again I think that engineer is unlocked after the G5 power plant engineer anyway.
Nfected (Kitiltva) 2017. ápr. 18., 20:55 
Psyanide eredeti hozzászólása:
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Ruthenium (if that's what you need) can be found on the same planet Lei Cheung is on iirc


For G5 Thermal resistance booster upgrades its Heat Exchangers, which according to INARA are found either as slavage from transport ships or found in signal sources in anarcy systems, however I was wrong they are not rare but standard so I don't think it'll cause me too much trouble, I have plenty of the other items needed though. As I'm primarily a bounty hunter/assassin/law enforcer for the federation I guess I dont get the opportunity to space enough transport ships..... I'm usually saving/avenging their sorry backsides xD

Really need to start moving towards G5 pulse laser upgrades soon though, but then again I think that engineer is unlocked after the G5 power plant engineer anyway.

Correct, Broo Tarquin is after Hera Tani

Heat exchangers I have a lot of from undermining. It's Ruthenium I always seem to run out of.
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