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Lucan Orion Mar 27, 2017 @ 4:16pm
Finding civil wars on the galaxy map
Hi All,

I've been getting kind of bored with hitting High RES sites in Kremainn. Don't get me wrong, making 1-4 million credits per hour has been nice for me! It's allowed me to play around with a few different ship types and fittings. But I've wanted to give massacre missions a go again. I've found recently that I can survive them a lot more than when I first started playing. Now here's the problem.

When I go into the galaxy map and filter systems by state, then select either civil war or war, I get maybe 3-5 systems showing up in the entire galaxy. Does that seem right? It doesn't to me because I can be in a system where there is an active civil war going on and that system doesn't show up. I also know of two other near by systems where a couple of factions are in civil war, and those systems don't show up on the map either. Is there some way to filter that I'm missing?

The systems I spoke of that I know have civil wars, don't consistantly offer me massacre missions. When I have time to play and I log in, I want to grab a massacre mission or two from whatever faction So I'd like to be able to locate the systems with civil wars, using the mechanics that are supposedly designed into the game for that purpose.

Please help! :)
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Indal Mar 27, 2017 @ 5:53pm 
You must be near to see them. Scout around
Ofan Mar 27, 2017 @ 6:03pm 
The map shows them but they are not set up in clusters or anything, they trigger according to the BGS all over the bubble.

Set the map as you have done and then carefully look for them, you will - with the right level of zoom and care- find what you want.
Lucan Orion Mar 27, 2017 @ 6:49pm 
Indal - You did see where I noted that the map doesn't show systems I know and am even in, that have civil wars going?

Ofan - What does BGS mean? I also have zoomed right up to the system I'm in and slowly zoomed out and panned around. There are NO stars showing with civil wars except for 3 right now. Otherwise I guess I don't know what you mean by "carefully" look for them. And I say again, the map does NOT show, the systems I already know (because I've been in them and am in one currenbtly) that have an active civil war going.

I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you two or if you're misunderstanding me.
steve.neverslept Mar 27, 2017 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Lucan Orion:
Indal - You did see where I noted that the map doesn't show systems I know and am even in, that have civil wars going?

Check all the toggles on the map. They sometimes toggle themselves, and also you might have some stars to set to not show. the overlay is quite buggy.
Ofan Mar 27, 2017 @ 7:07pm 
Originally posted by Lucan Orion:
Indal - You did see where I noted that the map doesn't show systems I know and am even in, that have civil wars going?

Ofan - What does BGS mean? I also have zoomed right up to the system I'm in and slowly zoomed out and panned around. There are NO stars showing with civil wars except for 3 right now. Otherwise I guess I don't know what you mean by "carefully" look for them. And I say again, the map does NOT show, the systems I already know (because I've been in them and am in one currenbtly) that have an active civil war going.

I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you two or if you're misunderstanding me.

Background simulation, the thing that controls stuff like system states

You can't just pan around and rotate you have to move the camera around in space, you wont be able to see a system 300ly away unless you scroll the camera over to it so you have to set the map up to show what you want then scroll around and up and down looking for it.

It will show systems in the state if you are in range, I have found outbreak systems hundred of ly away before doing this, but you have to move the camera not just change its angle
Lucan Orion Mar 27, 2017 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by steve.neverslept:
Originally posted by Lucan Orion:
Indal - You did see where I noted that the map doesn't show systems I know and am even in, that have civil wars going?

Check all the toggles on the map. They sometimes toggle themselves, and also you might have some stars to set to not show. the overlay is quite buggy.

Now that you mention this, I do have another filter set for scoopable stars. So even though that isn't the active filter, it still impacts the other filters is what you're saying? I will log in and change it just to see what happens.
Ofan Mar 27, 2017 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by Lucan Orion:
Originally posted by steve.neverslept:

Check all the toggles on the map. They sometimes toggle themselves, and also you might have some stars to set to not show. the overlay is quite buggy.

Now that you mention this, I do have another filter set for scoopable stars. So even though that isn't the active filter, it still impacts the other filters is what you're saying? I will log in and change it just to see what happens.

As far as I know you can only have one filter active.
Lucan Orion Mar 27, 2017 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by Ofan:
Originally posted by Lucan Orion:
Indal - You did see where I noted that the map doesn't show systems I know and am even in, that have civil wars going?

Ofan - What does BGS mean? I also have zoomed right up to the system I'm in and slowly zoomed out and panned around. There are NO stars showing with civil wars except for 3 right now. Otherwise I guess I don't know what you mean by "carefully" look for them. And I say again, the map does NOT show, the systems I already know (because I've been in them and am in one currenbtly) that have an active civil war going.

I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you two or if you're misunderstanding me.

Background simulation, the thing that controls stuff like system states

You can't just pan around and rotate you have to move the camera around in space, you wont be able to see a system 300ly away unless you scroll the camera over to it so you have to set the map up to show what you want then scroll around and up and down looking for it.

It will show systems in the state if you are in range, I have found outbreak systems hundred of ly away before doing this, but you have to move the camera not just change its angle

I guess what doesn't make sense to me, is if I'm filtering for say, anarchy systems, I will see all the near by systems, as well as those further away. If I'm looking for a specific government type in my filter, I seem to be able to see dozens and dozens of those, near and far away. But I set filter for civil war, and the entire galaxy goes dark save for the 3 randomn systems. Even though the system I'm in has a civil war, it doesn't show, along with two other systems I know have an active civil war. I know I've scrolled around with the keyboard and have gone hundreds of ly from my system on the map, but the stars do not show up. But I'll try again.
steve.neverslept Mar 27, 2017 @ 7:44pm 
Originally posted by Ofan:
Originally posted by Lucan Orion:

Now that you mention this, I do have another filter set for scoopable stars. So even though that isn't the active filter, it still impacts the other filters is what you're saying? I will log in and change it just to see what happens.

As far as I know you can only have one filter active.

If you've turned off some star types and switch to system status the star types stay turned off.
Ray Robertson Mar 27, 2017 @ 10:59pm 
The state filters on the galaxy map only filter for the state of the controlling faction. So if you filter for civil war, only systems where the controlling faction is in a state of civil war will show up.
Last edited by Ray Robertson; Mar 27, 2017 @ 11:02pm
Ofan Mar 28, 2017 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by steve.neverslept:
Originally posted by Ofan:

As far as I know you can only have one filter active.

If you've turned off some star types and switch to system status the star types stay turned off.

Hello,

I'm sorry that is not correct.

Please turn off ALL stars from gal map then switch to any other filter type and watch them all come back, only one filter may be applied at a time :)
Last edited by Ofan; Mar 28, 2017 @ 2:21am
Lucan Orion Mar 28, 2017 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Ray Robertson:
The state filters on the galaxy map only filter for the state of the controlling faction. So if you filter for civil war, only systems where the controlling faction is in a state of civil war will show up.

Oh! Ok, that makes sense. That also put's the kabosh on my plan to be a merc for hire. Thanks thought!
Ofan Mar 28, 2017 @ 3:25am 
Alternatively, galnet give a list of all systems in war or civil war states

Here, although excuse the long post to come
Ofan Mar 28, 2017 @ 3:25am 
24 MAR 3303

This report presents the latest data on conflict among the galaxy's minor factions.

Here are the latest factions to experience a civil war:

New 31 Aquilae Green Party

Potriti Gold Mafia

Zelano Systems

Fusang Fortune Commodities

Vanayequi Independents

Eravate Life Services

AG+21 1754 Citizen Party

Eranin Peoples Party

Purungurawn Purple Society

United Hatmehit Revolutionary Party

Civil wars occur when minor factions compete for control of major assets such as starports. When a faction is involved in a civil war, the standard of living, development level and security level in the system it controls are temporarily reduced. Combat activities can bring a civil war to an end.

Here are the latest factions to experience war:

Colanja Gold Power Services

Ross 754 Labour

G 41-14 Purple Travel Solutions

Kokary Holdings

Wolf 359 Blue Travel Commodities

Limapa Blue State Commodities

Lords of Ngaliba

HIP 8593 Empire League

Coquim Industry

Kini Drug Empire

Wars occur when a minor faction invades a star system controlled by another minor faction. For the duration of the war, the standard of living, wealth level and security level in the disputed system are reduced. Combat activity between the two warring factions determines the outcome of the conflict. If neither faction succeeds in dominating the other, the war ends in a ceasefire.
Lucan Orion Mar 28, 2017 @ 4:15am 
Ok, thanks I'll check out Galnet as well. Does anyone know if there are factors (economy, government, population) that at the very least would provide massacre missions on a regular basis?
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