Party Hard

Party Hard

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FateWeaver Sep 1, 2015 @ 12:27pm
Spoilers! Ending Questions.
So are John West(cop) and Darius(murderer) one and the same? It seems that way seeing as there is only one person sitting on the bench while they are talking. And the last line "let's go home Darius" seems to imply that they are more or less tied at the hip, metaphorically speaking that is. Would also explain how Katie got involved to a large extent, her dad being the murderer who slashed up all her friends at her party sure would be motivation enough to split and pretend to be dead to avoid him only for her to later get sucked into his schemes due their family bond pulling her back in.
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Shadow Esper Sep 1, 2015 @ 12:37pm 
That was my interpretation of it. A Mr Brooks, kind of thing.

I'm not convinced Katie is actually dead though.
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pinoklgames  [developer] Sep 1, 2015 @ 12:53pm 
FateWeaver you got it right.
FateWeaver Sep 1, 2015 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by Shadow Esper:
That was my interpretation of it. A Mr Brooks, kind of thing.

I'm not convinced Katie is actually dead though.
Would be neat to see her again if that is the case.
FateWeaver Sep 1, 2015 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by pinoklgames:
FateWeaver you got it right.
Ah, how nice. Refreshing to be right once in a while. ^^
Thanks for making this experience. Really liked the music and the pixel art. Looking forward to any future content and balance fixes.
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YukoValis Oct 15, 2015 @ 11:46pm 
Though my concern is that when he killed off Katie, she was in her underwear. I mean sure if the killer was a random that wouldn't mean much. They might have been getting to a bit of jolly before killing her... but if he was her dad... hmm Also I want to point out that the "Party Harders" are stupid. The idolize a party serial killer, by having a party... and then being scared and surprised when someone, anyone shows up to kill people.
FateWeaver Oct 16, 2015 @ 5:26am 
Yeah, that is disturbing... Makes you also wonder if Katie knew it was her father under the mask or not... And yeah, the Party Harders are dumb as rocks.
Sedge Oct 27, 2015 @ 4:07am 
I'm somewhat disappoint at this revelation; the idea of a cop going all Stockholm for a serial killer feels more original than the old "split personality" twist. Also oddly romantic.

Originally posted by YukoValis:
Though my concern is that when he killed off Katie, she was in her underwear.
Well, if she was at a crazy party, she might have been dressed like that before she was killed...
ni0g0s Jul 28, 2016 @ 2:08pm 
But in the intro there are 2 people talkin. Mr west and another one
FateWeaver Jul 30, 2016 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by ni0g0s:
But in the intro there are 2 people talkin. Mr west and another one
He is talking with himself. He alters his voice for each persona.
Last edited by FateWeaver; Jul 30, 2016 @ 11:04am
:({ZimmeR}): Sep 8, 2016 @ 8:48am 
So every level we play default char is that Darius or Mr. West? and the final level who chart is play? Im so confuced...
FateWeaver Sep 8, 2016 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by :({ZimmeR})::
So every level we play default char is that Darius or Mr. West? and the final level who chart is play? Im so confuced...
You are the same man, but he has two personalities fighting over control over his body. At the end his two personalities reconcile and unite.

This is the last time I will answer here, hopefully things should be clear for you now.
:({ZimmeR}): Sep 8, 2016 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by FateWeaver:
Originally posted by :({ZimmeR})::
So every level we play default char is that Darius or Mr. West? and the final level who chart is play? Im so confuced...
You are the same man, but he has two personalities fighting over control over his body. At the end his two personalities reconcile and unite.

This is the last time I will answer here, hopefully things should be clear for you now.

Ok im understand now, the man is ourself and control personalities his body by Darius and John West.
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madcapbeatitude Jul 5, 2017 @ 5:37am 
If I understand correctly, all of the characters are Officer John West (birth name) except the one that is Katie West, his daughter. All of the characters besides Katie and John in police uniform probably answer to "Darius," but I only have access to 4 characters including the default so far so we'll see what happens. :)

The default character is the speaking persona named "Darius." Darius is the personality of John's that "just wants to sleep." One of the first personas to unlock "must be fast or dead....you choose," and will die if he goes a couple minutes without killing. In one of the cutscenes right before the Halloween party, Darius simply breathes raggedly. I think of that as the vocal expression of the personality that needs to kill IMMEDIATELY.

Darius, the default, feels far more formidable than Katie, John or his berserker personality. He is patient and resourceful. If he needs to hide for ten minutes, run fast, set traps or use dirty tricks to kill somebody, that is what he will do. Afterwards he'll leave. Perhaps on a bus. Of the four to whom I have access, he's the easiest to play with. I'll be trying out some stages with the do-or-die persona. The bus level shouldn't require too much waiting at all.

John West is not nearly as good a killer when he wears his uniform and believes in morals. He won't use "traps," or environmental kills, so a LOT of opportunities are missed for combos and manufactured accidents. In the uniform of his day job, however, he can move like a wolf in sheep's clothing, carrying his last victim out for disposal right in front of his next victims. So while you can't ensure the police leave quickly by futzing with the gumball machine to take care of that security guard, you CAN stab your victims in the throat, and, if nobody saw you kill them, carry them out like you're the good guy. It's a 180 degree different approach to the job.

The standard character feels like the easiest, so far, to clear levels with, and is probably intended for that purpose. Accepting different handicaps and advantages throughout the varoius levels keeps the game fresh and challenging. Far as I can tell so far, though, they're all John/Darius except Katie.

Edit: Good lord, I tried out the berserker build. You want to sprint as much as you can, but the mechanic of sprinting is....reversed? And if you play right, you don't need to...worry about disposing of bodies. Also, John West can't dispose of them but he doesn't need to worry about it either if you play him right. It's practically a different game with just the three of them.

Second edit: OK, having unlocked all of the non-DLC characters, they are indeed all Darius embodying different killer stereotypes.

There's standard Darius, who is Always Calm and Prepared - slacks and a collared shirt, uses a simple serrated knife, moves fairly quickly and can exploit all sorts of situational opportunities. Darius is, very simply, the easiest character to use in most situations because he has the most options and is passably good at everything, with no aggravating shortcomings.

There's John West, free of his delusions but still accepting of Darius' choices. I can't put my finger on it, but he seems to move at Darius' speed but suck at running somehow, like his stamina runs out immediately. He can't use items, can't hide bodies and can't use traps, so he has to kill EVERYBODY one quick stab at a time. And since he sucks at running, it can be very difficult to stop somebody from running to the phone if they see something they shouldn't have.

There's the Ninja - I'm not sure if it's supposed to reference anything specifically, but the ninja gear reminds me of Shinobi, Ninja Gaiden and games like that. Maybe Hattori Hanzo in some of the old Samurai Showdown games? Still, the Ninja is also Darius/John West.

The Butcher is very clearly a take on Jason Voorheis from the "Halloween" series, and is a lumbering melee beast with overpowered melee attacks and crummy movement. The Butcher is just Darius' take on Jason, though.

Katie is the most normal extra character - her kills take 2 hits, not one, but she can one-hit people to stun them non-lethally without arousing suspicion. Kind of your standard TinyBuild brunette, reminds me of the girlfriend from "Punch Club."

I've heard no names for the last non-DLC character, who needs to be "fast or dead." I just call him the Berserker since he flourishes in carefully planned bursts of incredible offensive power. He has an energy pack on his back (reminds me of early iterations of Bane from Batman) and, it seems, a faulty heart which will fail if he can't continuously calm it by getting more melee kills. I find him the hardest to use, not because he isn't insanely powerful and effective but because once I have the first 20-30 easy kills out of the way, his depleting timer forces me to make worse decisions. If anybody can think of villains with faulty cardial health who relied on back-mounted energy cells for insane power, I'd love to know the homage here. The Berserker, however, is clearly also Darius jus rocking a different murderous gimmick.
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madcapbeatitude Jul 5, 2017 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by YukoValis:
Though my concern is that when he killed off Katie, she was in her underwear. I mean sure if the killer was a random that wouldn't mean much. They might have been getting to a bit of jolly before killing her... but if he was her dad... hmm Also I want to point out that the "Party Harders" are stupid. The idolize a party serial killer, by having a party... and then being scared and surprised when someone, anyone shows up to kill people.

Originally posted by YukoValis:
Though my concern is that when he killed off Katie, she was in her underwear. I mean sure if the killer was a random that wouldn't mean much. They might have been getting to a bit of jolly before killing her... but if he was her dad... hmm Also I want to point out that the "Party Harders" are stupid. The idolize a party serial killer, by having a party... and then being scared and surprised when someone, anyone shows up to kill people.

In a way, the final level brings home the poetry of who and what the Party Hard Killer is. John West is shown to be a straight-laced, self-righteous police officer with a need to exact moral justice. He's kept up at night because the world, as he sees it, is "going to ♥♥♥♥."Given the variety of sex-and-alcohol-centered behaviors NPCs engage in constantly, he seems opposed to the libidinous tendencies of mandkind that are exemplified by parties. It's possible that, in his work as a policeman, he's scooped up so many bodies of people who died doing something stupid while drunk thathe no longer relates to mankind. He hears a rager going on one night, blames them for his lack of sleep and decides he'll correct one small part of the world he thinks is wrong.

It feels so good, though, that he can't stop. He htiches a ride after one spree, catches a bus after the next. He even takes time off work to "grieve for his daughter," who has in fact just faked her death and hit the road with him. His colleagues keep him informed about the investigation into himself, guaranteeing that he'll stay many steps ahead of the national manhunt.

That's not a man you expect to listen to the type of music in the soundtrack, a lot of which sounds like techno, europop, or other rave-like genres of etherial, repetitive, hard-driving dance music. Rather, the music feels more like the world he lives in - beautiful but shallow, catchy but violent. Sinister and unforgiving. John, inside that world, might be better simplified by the kind of music that tends to play during the cut scenss - quiet, bleak, intense, menacing. You don't get the sense he likes music.

Finally, there is little cross-over between Darius' description of the Party Harders' views ("that the Party Hard Killer is "improving" the world and "making it a utopia,") and Darius' own words (that the world has "gone to ♥♥♥♥," and "needs to be cleansed.") The Party Harders think they "get" Darius and that he's on their side. The capstone mission to the main story is about proving them wrong - that they're just a bunch of partiers, and that they splatter just like anybody else. If getting splattered and becoming another of Darius' works of art wasn't what they wanted, well, they must not have gotten him as well as they thought.
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