Styx: Shards of Darkness

Styx: Shards of Darkness

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tigerpoetry Aug 11, 2017 @ 7:31am
I hate dwarves!
I'm not being rude to shorter people here...at 5'-5" I'm hardly a giant among men myself...

No, those bearded gits in the game. How the heck anyone sneaks past them if they haven't discovered the recipe for dwarf repellent, or whatever it's called, I don't know.

The thing is, you creep round a corner before you've seen the little swine, they get partially alerted and move towards you. Styx dives down the nearest manhole and they just follow your scent. Added to that you can't pour eau-de-dwarf all over yourself when you're in cover. Eventually they haul poor Styx out and mug him.

I'm playing 0 alerts, 0 kills, so once one of them gets a whiff of Styx, I just have to reload the previous save...tedious. Other than that I run like crazy, alchemist's toolset jingling like a tambourine, in the blind hope I don't alert everyone in the entire zone!

How easy are they to kill? I'm seriously considering ditching my self-imposed merciful policy 'cause of these nasty thugs!

What does everyone else think of them?
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Nec Aug 11, 2017 @ 8:01am 
i usually lead them away (by letting hem follow my scent) if i absolutely have to pass through, with a clone ofc. if that one gets discovered at least i wont suffer "a detection". but usually they should all be avoidable with a bit of patience and using alternative routes
tigerpoetry Aug 11, 2017 @ 4:50pm 
Well, I'm on level 9 now, so no more dwarves.

Hurray!

I've just seen what I have to defeat.

Oh sh...
Jurassic Fart 2 Aug 11, 2017 @ 7:43pm 
From what I understand, the dwarves of lore aren't exactlty fastidious in the personal hygiene and grooming department…so, they must have really great olfactory senses! One thing the devs overlooked: They don't give players a way to determine which way the wind is blowing so they can stalk them from downwind.

There are already games that do this (some for different reasons, like sniper accuracy), Grand Theft Auto V, to be specific—you have to be careful that the deer don't smell you coming.
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Atomblonde Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:29pm 
When you're in an area with dwarves just take the high roads AKA rooftops. :)
tigerpoetry Aug 12, 2017 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by Lulu:
When you're in an area with dwarves just take the high roads AKA rooftops. :)

Yeah, I noticed that they don't smell you if you're above them, after a bit. you have to be on the same level for them to do it.

Another thing I believe I noticed about them is that they don't smell you unless you cross their patrol path before they reach that point. I'm not certain about this but it seemed to be the case.

In the hunter's village for instance I hid under the same stairs twice with the same dwarf patrolling. First time I dropped into it from the stairs and scuttled under (this dwarf never went up the stairs) He walked straight past.

Second time I approached from the other direction along his patrol path and hid under the stairs...amber alert.

It doesn't help much when you want to loot the materials and tokens from the room they're patrolling in...eau de dwarf in buckets!
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Dientera Aug 13, 2017 @ 3:12am 
If you climb up/down the dwarf's generally won't follow your scent anymore. The recipe to unlock the scent potion is located in the first level you encounter dwarfs anyways, so it's not really much of an issue if you know where to find/happen to find it early on in that level.
Jurassic Fart 2 Aug 13, 2017 @ 7:34am 
Scent potion? There's a doGdamned scent potion?

(groans and covers eyes)
Ah, fəck me blind! (damned system keeps rendering "Awww" followed by comma wrong, as dot-net)

Gr-eat. After I come back from Master of Shadows, which I'm running through again to polish my stealth skills, I'll have to repeat that mission (current progress is temporarily halted during Mission 8).

Killing that dwarf and framing the elves for it was a real bear without that accursed potion!
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tigerpoetry Aug 13, 2017 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Feiglingmörder:
Scent potion? There's a doGdamned scent potion?

(groans and covers eyes)
Ah, fəck me blind! (damned system keeps rendering "Awww" followed by comma wrong, as dot-net)

Gr-eat. After I come back from Master of Shadows, which I'm running through again to polish my stealth skills, I'll have to repeat that mission (current progress is temporarily halted during Mission 8).

Killing that dwarf and framing the elves for it was a real bear without that accursed potion!

Yep. there's a scent potion. The first time you visit Hunter's village with the dwarves and get to choose between sticking the drunk captain on the boat or freeing the airship captain, there's a recipe (with me It was just near the drunk captain's room, go up to the roof until you see a varandah with a green trellis over it...the room's next to that)

Once you've found the recipe you can craft it and it gives you immunity to the dwarves' scent ability for 3 minutes after you use it.

It made life a lot easier for me.
Jurassic Fart 2 Aug 13, 2017 @ 12:17pm 
Ah. That explains it, then. That mission was bugged to Hell and back for me; two characters refused to register my attempts at interaction. I ended up just throwing the drunk into the boat.

Looks like your advice has motivated me to change my plans: Upon my return, I'm going to repeat that mission first. That potion is a must-have item!
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Nec Aug 14, 2017 @ 1:49am 
hm, i thought the potion to be a waste with only a handful of dwarves in the game that u could easily outmaneuver.

Originally posted by Feiglingmörder:
I ended up just throwing the drunk into the boat

always found the airship-path to be the easier one. never bothered carrying that old fart
tigerpoetry Aug 14, 2017 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Nec:
hm, i thought the potion to be a waste with only a handful of dwarves in the game that u could easily outmaneuver.

Originally posted by Feiglingmörder:
I ended up just throwing the drunk into the boat

always found the airship-path to be the easier one. never bothered carrying that old fart

I went the airship route too but I explored both options first. Contagious invisibility could be useful if you opt to tote the drunken swine to the boat.
Jurassic Fart 2 Aug 14, 2017 @ 9:07am 
Well, I just finished replaying all of the Master of Shadows missions, so I'm coming back to this game and get that nifty potion. I had intended on getting all the relics in the last game, but one level was just too much a Bol' v zadnitse (pronounced "bowl-v-zad-NEET-syeh"), mission failure upon detection, et cetera.

As for the ultimate utility of that potion, I guess I'll find out myself. I only know that I had a tough time of it assassinating that one character. You know the elves' sense of smell in the last game should have been a foreshadowing of what more was to come.

I think maybe I'll start over in this game just to make it interesting: Check off all the secondary objectives before proceeding to the next mission.

Originally posted by TigerPoetry:
I'm hardly a giant among men myself...
Actually, I rather do identify with that (my "admitted" hateur towards dwarves extends only to these mythical creatures, mostly for the inconveniences that they present). Until puberty rendered my beautiful singing voice more into the cawing of a hoarse raven [for ten doGdamned years], I was about a foot-and-a-half shorter than "everyone else." And skinny—I was skinny. I had to gain fourteen pounds (avoirdupois), a bit over six kilos, to be accepted as an enlisted volunteer in the American Navy (said feat augmented by expedience of eating ten poinds of bananas before weigh-in). I wore pants with a 28-inch / 71 cm waist until age 30, when I was once shocked to hear some person refer to me as "that tall skinny guy."

I've never dated a dwarf, but I did have a midget for a girlfriend, once. I developed a semi-permanent charlie-horse in my lower back because I walked with an arm about her waist. What a sight we must have made! Anyhow, some insensitive morons would make the mistake of referring to her as a dwarf, so I took it upon myself to A) educate them on the difference between dwarves and elvesoops! I mean "midgets," of course!— and B) ridicule them regarding thir unfortunate citcumstances of birth.

(smile) For some silly reason, that made ME the bad guy. At any rate, age has stolen almost two inches from my adult height; age-related disc compression in my spinal column leaves me at the modest height of 5' 10".
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tigerpoetry Aug 14, 2017 @ 9:27am 
Feiglingmorder...

...5' 10"...you're still a giant compared to me!

Oddly enough, I dated a midget once, too. It was about the only time I ever felt tall.

I should get a job teaching kindergarten kids to bolster my self-esteem!

I remember watching a world cup football championship (soccer for Americans) many years back and wistfully dreaming of emigrating to Chile, since most of their football team looked shorter than me!

I imagined myself striding majestically through Santa Cruz with the locals whispering, "who's the lamky ♥♥♥♥♥♥?" behind my back!

Good luck with Eau de dwarf...I found it to be really useful.
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