So, you want to know why some of us hate english dubs in japanese games right? ( especially rpgs )

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https://youtu.be/x-wIFB_mmW4?t=142

Doesn't mean that i am against both tracks in every release, but the good thing is it would be way easier to make a pc *undub* than a console one.

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引用自 terry309：

引用自 kainevil：

Why did you post it then? You're the one that doesn't make sense at all.

You state that i'm making fun of Lezard when i'm actually doing the opposite, you claim that English dubs are ♥♥♥♥ so i'm proving otherwise.

Lezards English dub is good, even you admited it, is this a reason to personally attack me?

And when did i say that i have an agenda against english dubs? My point has always been that i prefer original language track to be always included in localized releases ( Doesn't matter if the game is japanese ), a thing that bamco avoided like the plague with all their previous tales series. They forced english dubs on a lot of people who still wanted to hear the original V.A. cast. I remember when they told people that the reason was the lack of capacity to include both tracks, but then the xbox 360 and ps3 came and they still kept doing the same thing. I just hope that they stick to releasing both ( or even more languages ) in their next games so that no one has issues anymore.

[TheSkrin]

Eh, I would still use the English dub over the Japanese every time. To me, there's absolutely no point in voiced lines if I can't understand them. May as well just mute it instead. Plus, I don't like the shrill and high-pitched tones so common in Japanese female characters.

[Wyrtt]

引用自 Azphel：

引用自 Makoto：

You just cherry-picked whatever the worst english dub you could find. I could go and find a horrible japanese voice acted video just the same.

I actually like both of them, people that think one is actually superior to the other--rather than just a preference-- have some sort of superiority complex.

This ^
That is exactly what I've been trying to get across. There are bad dubs and there are good dubs. It goes both ways in whatever language you watch. Dragon Ball Z in Japanese being a prime example IMO. Pretty much the only anime I can't watch in Japanese. The voices drive me up the wall. Then some dubs like the first Naruto series. Can't get into it at all. If you like one format over the other that's fine. But going out of your way to bash one or the other simply because people enjoy the one you don't like is just asinine.

Dub for anime or game with bad vo will be bad too. If even orignal actors were lazy to work why would dubbers?

[Vashe]

"Bad" and "Good" are opinion (on internet). And after all you can't debate opinions...

[Kitemay]

honestly i don't care about sub vs dub, i just wanna play the game

[Ephnen]

Hey, it's one of those threads again, where it baits two factions to tear eachother's throats. May I suggest a peaceful solution to this? .... Wait for it....

Why do you even care who prefers what? Just don't give a crap. Go with whatever floats your boat and don't meddle with other people' taste. Don't shove your crap to other people, then they won't do the same to you.

If this is really hard for you, then I don't know what else to say, but you are simply looking for a fight out of:

1. Boredom
2. Hater
3. Troll

Me? I used to be a purist, but in recent few years, I've been more flexible. It honestly comes down to whichever grows into you the most. For old series like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Outlaw Star, DBZ, etc, I can enjoy English Dubs equally as I do for Subs. I'm little picky with the newer series, since I grow into Subs way before the Dub releases, so I end up giving stern judgment on dubs and many end up giving me the cringe.

Some other purists may judge me for even trying to watch dubs, but I don't care, really. It gives me an opportunity to see the point of view from the otherside. It's better to know and understand why some would like it or hate it, before making yourself look and sound like a jack@ss. Plus, it's not like they pay for my blu rays or my bandwidth. Pssh

With all this said, stop being immature and move on.

[Wyrtt]

引用自 Ephnen：

Hey, it's one of those threads again, where it baits two factions to tear eachother's throats. May I suggest a peaceful solution to this? .... Wait for it....

Why do you even care who prefers what? Just don't give a crap. Go with whatever floats your boat and don't meddle with other people' taste. Don't shove your crap to other people, then they won't do the same to you.

If this is really hard for you, then I don't know what else to say, but you are simply looking for a fight out of:

1. Boredom
2. Hater
3. Troll

Me? I used to be a purist, but in recent few years, I've been more flexible. It honestly comes down to whichever grows into you the most. For old series like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Outlaw Star, DBZ, etc, I can enjoy English Dubs equally as I do for Subs. I'm little picky with the newer series, since I grow into Subs way before the Dub releases, so I end up giving stern judgment on dubs and many end up giving me the cringe.

Some other purists may judge me for even trying to watch dubs, but I don't care, really. It gives me an opportunity to see the point of view from the otherside. It's better to know and understand why some would like it or hate it, before making yourself look and sound like a jack@ss. Plus, it's not like they pay for my blu rays or my bandwidth. Pssh

With all this said, stop being immature and move on.

watching with dubs and considering them superior to original are 2 different things.
I watch with dubs crap that i dont like but with subs serious stuff. For example british Sherlock is awful if you watch it dubbed so im watched it raw while most others serials i watch with awful dub just because i dont have time. I put them on my tv while i work on my 1st monitor.
But will i ever say that dubs are better? I have fuctional brains and know that dubs are worse,

[Ephnen]

^
I think you missed the point in my post, but whatever works for you, go for it.

[rkolegend3]

It's sad that people actually bash others for enjoying a dub in anime or video games. If you dislike dubs then simply use the Japanese audio, it's really that simple. Whenever I see an idiot trying to impose their preference of sub anime and video games on others, I just ignore it.. why? because those people are stupid.

[Wyrtt]

引用自 rkolegend3：

It's sad that people actually bash others for enjoying a dub in anime or video games. If you dislike dubs then simply use the Japanese audio, it's really that simple. Whenever I see an idiot trying to impose their preference of sub anime and video games on others, I just ignore it.. why? because those people are stupid.

maybe you should learn about metter before posting? Problem is you cant use japanese audio in a lot of cases. and dub lovers only create more problems. Good thing that at least some companies provide dual audio.

[Ephnen]

Eh, rather than people being "dub lovers" they simply prefer their own native voice work than foreign voices that they are not used to. Purists have zero tolerence towards dubs regardless of the quality, so their opinion on dubs kind of pointless. I've heard plenty of dub works that were equally excellent as the original voice works, but never better. Perhaps it's because I still favor the original... If it counts, Dragon Ball franchise was the only series that I honestly thought the dubs were better. lol

[Vashe]

You think DBZ dubs are better because you've probably watched it with dubs as a kid... Even for me, it's the only French dub I can watch because of this. It's called "nostalgy".It's not related to dub quality...

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引用自 Vashe：

You think DBZ dubs are better because you've probably watched it with dubs as a kid... Even for me, it's the only French dub I can watch because of this. It's called "nostalgy".It's not related to dub quality...

This is true. Also, these people obviously never played the Sengoku Basara or Yakuza series. English dubs sound extremely stupid and out of place to say the least.

[Adohleas]

引用自 TheSkrin：

Eh, I would still use the English dub over the Japanese every time. To me, there's absolutely no point in voiced lines if I can't understand them. May as well just mute it instead. Plus, I don't like the shrill and high-pitched tones so common in Japanese female characters.

This, often times they over-exaggerate the high pitched tones for the Japanese female voices that it doesn't sound natural compare to real voices of female Japanese. But you sometimes get that with English dubs too, its just more common with Japanese dubs.

[Bogan]

引用自 kainevil：

https://youtu.be/x-wIFB_mmW4?t=142

Doesn't mean that i am against both tracks in every release, but the good thing is it would be way easier to make a pc *undub* than a console one.

You sir are an idiot you're basing English dub acting on an anime that looks like it was made in the 80's if you knew anything about anime and JRPG games you'd realise the voice acting has come along way look at Attack on titan, Fairy Tail, Sword Art Online, Log Horizon, Bleach, Highschool dxd and Is this a zombie animes with great english dubs so before you comment don't link a vid from the 80's when voice acting in most stuff was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible.