How do you tame a bee in singleplayer?

[HNTR]

All the beehives I've found did nothing when destroyed despite humming coming from them. I used bug repellant and ghillie armor but nothing happened. Then I summoned one per command as I agve up but I had no option to give it kibble or the flower.
I need it for the Master Zoologist achievement and since spawning tamed creatures doesn't work for this I ahve to actually tame one. Problem is that all hives are somehow bugged and I don't want to use the destroy dino command as it might kill everything including my own and most likely corrupt my save or something.
Is there like a different method I can try or am I locked out of this achivement and the 100%? Or is there maybe another map where it works better than on the Island and Aberration.
I really don't want to use any game changing commands as they might disable achievements anyways. I only used enablecheats password and saveworld or the occasional fly and walk when I was building something and I wanted more precision and control on part placement.

[steventirey]

The destroywilddinos command will not harm your tames - that is why it specifies wild dinos. Tames are not wild. You can also use the DestroyAll command with the appropriate ID to only destroy those specific things. And commands do not disable achievements.

[🦊 Hermit]

Don't worry too much about console commands disabling achievements, I can assure you they do not. Nor will using mods from the Workshop - in fact there are mods out there which can unlock all of the achievements for you without having to do any of them.

Also, console commands will not break your things so long as you input them correctly. For example the command 'destroywilddinos' will only target wild creatures, all your tames will be completely unaffected. There's even a specific command to destroy all wild beehives across the map, but it will leave player-owned hives alone as they are referred to by a different name in the game's code:

DestroyAll "BeeHive_C" 1

If you run that command, hopefully more will respawn soon enough that will be populated.

I have also heard it said that queens disappearing from hives is a bug with the game's single player mode, which doesn't happen on dedicated servers. So if you are really struggling, perhaps you could host a local dedicated session on your home machine and play your game that way instead? That would also avoid a number of other bugs which frequently plague single player too, although you would need a moderately powerful computer to run the server and client together. Not exceptionally powerful though, my 10yo rig can do it without too many problems.

With regard to the one you spawned - it's strange that it wouldn't be tameable as I would have thought that would work. Which command did you use to spawn it?

[william_es]

Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:

DestroyAll "BeeHive_C" 1

This command that hermit suggested is a godsend. Beehives are structures, not tames. It's very common in single player for the game to stack up hundreds of beehives across the map. Almost all will be empty. You can even have more then one hive in the exact same spot. If you attack the hive you will see an animation for the hive crumbling apart, and then see another beehive still there. That meant they were all stacked up.

So wipe the actual beehive structures, and then use a dino wipe admin command and after that most of the beehives you find should hopefully contain a queen.

Be warned, the taming method for queen bees is a giant buggy glitchy mess. I normally skip it entirely, and just harvest the honey and save it up. When I have enough I go make a domesticated bee hive structure from the structures plus mod. You need 50 honey and something like 250 wild flowers (plus other stuff) to craft a domesticated hive. So it still requires a decent amount of effort to be put in.

As a bonus, domesticated bee hives don't sting you, so you're not required to put the ghillie armor and bugspray on just to get honey from them. It's a little more civilized.

[🦊 Hermit]

^ Good advice about the hive, but they said they need the tame for the achievement, so the actual taming is kinda the priority in this case it seems...

[Mathius]

It's fairly common for bee hives to be empty. You should hear the bees actually buzzing around inside if it has a queen in it. I have tamed them on official, sp, and on unofficial servers.

Even with SS or S+ on the server you need honey to start your own hive and taming a stock beehive is the perfect way to do it.

Take a big dino (spino, rock drake, rex). Hit the hive one hit at a time until it turns dark. Make sure you're wearing Ghillie and have bug spray enabled and your tame is on passive. When the hive is dark it means one more hit will destroy it. Destroy the hive, immediately jump off your tame and feed the queen. Easy peasy.

Don't listen to people who tell you, "just use a bear." That would work on Ab, or Valguero, but most hives on Island, Rag, SE, and Extinction are too high up for a bear.

Queen bees on Aberration:

Beehives seem to spawn regardless of checking if the old hive despawned, so you can have multiple hives and multiple queens in one spot.

This can result in a queen getting stuck and supplying endless amounts of honey, or sometimes you can demo multiple hives successfully and tame more than one Queen.

I even had a situation once where I tamed a queen INSIDE the hive and she went to battle with the other queens.

It's not uncommon to tame them and have them still fly off, but they have always eventually returned to me.

If you turn them into a hive you can't transfer the hive.

If you cryo them, you can transfer them, but won't be able to deploy them on Ab. (should not make them disappear from cryopod) You can then turn them into a hive on another server after deployment and should be able to demo said hive and get your queen back, as long as the hive is healthy and fed with rare flowers.

If you set your hive on Aberration you won't get a queen bee back out of it when you demo it.

If you can tame a Mechelon (sp? Giant turtle) you'll be swimming in rare flowers.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:

Don't worry too much about console commands disabling achievements, I can assure you they do not. Nor will using mods from the Workshop - in fact there are mods out there which can unlock all of the achievements for you without having to do any of them.

Also, console commands will not break your things so long as you input them correctly. For example the command 'destroywilddinos' will only target wild creatures, all your tames will be completely unaffected. There's even a specific command to destroy all wild beehives across the map, but it will leave player-owned hives alone as they are referred to by a different name in the game's code:

DestroyAll "BeeHive_C" 1

If you run that command, hopefully more will respawn soon enough that will be populated.

I have also heard it said that queens disappearing from hives is a bug with the game's single player mode, which doesn't happen on dedicated servers. So if you are really struggling, perhaps you could host a local dedicated session on your home machine and play your game that way instead? That would also avoid a number of other bugs which frequently plague single player too, although you would need a moderately powerful computer to run the server and client together. Not exceptionally powerful though, my 10yo rig can do it without too many problems.

With regard to the one you spawned - it's strange that it wouldn't be tameable as I would have thought that would work. Which command did you use to spawn it?

It seems that the destroy beehive command has worked in that case, thanks. I was able to lure one out and tame it. Apparently the one I spawned before wasn't a queen bee but a normal giant bee. I've been using a few mods but I didn't think about them being too much of a game changer that could interfere with achievements. I just use some building and deco mods, the stacking one, a note tracker, a tame finder and the spyglass one. So nothing too crazy.
Also mind taht it's been like 3 years after I last played and I'm now just scooping up the last missing achievments before returning to finishing Genesis 1 and starting 2 afterwards.
I didn't have much problems before regarding bugs. Perhaps because I never bothered with specific things that are affected by those bugs.
Hosting a dedicated session would probably not be working well ebcause my internet connection has been absolutely ass lately and the game still has a few performance problems after all these years despite beinga ble to run newer and more demanding agmes at a much better performance for some reason.

[🦊 Hermit]

Ah so you got one? Good stuff, congrats

Glad you haven't experienced too many bugs either...there are some players who do seem to get away with playing the single player mode without being affected by them much, so if you're one of those then that's awesome. Sadly you seem to be in the minority, as we have had an awful lot of threads on these boards discussing some of the issues in the past. But if the game is working for ya then I guess we can't complain about that lol

With regard to the dedicated session suggestion - internet connection shouldn't actually be too much of an issue, because the server would be hosted on your own machine, so for the most part it should work like a LAN connection without actually going out onto the web. The server may just need to connect to Steam on initialising, but that's largely a formality and doesn't take much bandwidth, then after that you might not even need a net connection at all. But perhaps that isn't necessary in this case, whatever works best.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:

Ah so you got one? Good stuff, congrats :104::PhogsHappy:

Glad you haven't experienced too many bugs either...there are some players who do seem to get away with playing the single player mode without being affected by them much, so if you're one of those then that's awesome. Sadly you seem to be in the minority, as we have had an awful lot of threads on these boards discussing some of the issues in the past. But if the game is working for ya then I guess we can't complain about that lol

With regard to the dedicated session suggestion - internet connection shouldn't actually be too much of an issue, because the server would be hosted on your own machine, so for the most part it should work like a LAN connection without actually going out onto the web. The server may just need to connect to Steam on initialising, but that's largely a formality and doesn't take much bandwidth, then after that you might not even need a net connection at all. But perhaps that isn't necessary in this case, whatever works best.

Yeah it's a shame with all the bugs and the game still being so unoptimized. The game is actually fun and a good survival game but a technical nightmare. I wonder if ASA is any better or worse.

[🦊 Hermit]

From what I hear, considerably worse. They claimed to have rewritten the game's code to remove most of the bugs, yet practically all of the old ASE bugs have surfaced again in ASA and been reported many times, so it seems that claim is dubious at best. Plus a number of others have been added too which weren't in ASE, and the performance requires an incredibly powerful computer to run as well.

And that's before we even get onto the topics of paid mods, pay-to-win DLC, reports of admin abuse and developer cheating on official servers, bugfixes which were promised for ASE then dropped and offered behind the paywall of ASA, promised content for ASE which never materialised, and a whole host of other matters too. Sadly I've lost trust in the devs that they have the interests of their fans or the franchise at heart any more, and it seems Ark will never now see it's full potential.

I often call this game 'the greatest aneyurism you will ever have'. It's broken to the point of headaches and infuriation, and could even make you want to rage-quit at times due to the bugs. But when it works, it has flashes of brilliance which can keep you coming back for more.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:

From what I hear, considerably worse. They claimed to have rewritten the game's code to remove most of the bugs, yet practically all of the old ASE bugs have surfaced again in ASA and been reported many times, so it seems that claim is dubious at best. Plus a number of others have been added too which weren't in ASE, and the performance requires an incredibly powerful computer to run as well.

And that's before we even get onto the topics of paid mods, pay-to-win DLC, reports of admin abuse and developer cheating on official servers, bugfixes which were promised for ASE then dropped and offered behind the paywall of ASA, promised content for ASE which never materialised, and a whole host of other matters too. Sadly I've lost trust in the devs that they have the interests of their fans or the franchise at heart any more, and it seems Ark will never now see it's full potential.

I often call this game 'the greatest aneyurism you will ever have'. It's broken to the point of headaches and infuriation, and could even make you want to rage-quit at times due to the bugs. But when it works, it has flashes of brilliance which can keep you coming back for more.

Damn, that really sucks. Especially the paid mods and pay to win DLC part. I'm probably still okay playing ASE since I don't care for online play anyways. And even on ASE there's still unofficial servers left should I decide to go into it.