ARK: Survival Evolved

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Payne Sep 9, 2015 @ 7:23am
Simple pistol vs fabricated pistol
According to this table: http://ark.gamepedia.com/Weapon_Damage

the fabricated pistol has lower damage per bullet and also lower damage per whole clip.
Simple Pistol does 80 dam/shot, while the Fabricated pistol does 35. This means the Simple can do 480 damage before reloading, while the Fab can only do 455.

While I understand that the damage per bullet may be lower, the lower damage per clip effectively removes fabricated pistol from the game, nobody uses it and I really mean NOBODY.

I understand that you tried to counter that with a lower cost of manufacturing such bullets.
2 simple bullets require 1 metal ingot and 6 gunpowder.

3 advanced bullets require 1 metal ingot and 3 gunpowder.

I am not sure how to balance this to be fair but the fact remains that fabricated pistol has no use in the game at the moment. This is not the first thread to raise this point but I feel it is good to resume this discussion on occasion to bring more attention to this problem.

If you wanted to make a simple pistol more like a revolver, please give us an option to have a fabricated revolver as well which should have higher damage per shot and per clip.
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jc_lvngstn Sep 9, 2015 @ 7:40am 
Honestly, I find all high end weapons such as the assault rifle, fabricated pistol/shotgun, etc...pretty much useless in PvE. We stick with the simple pistol and the rifle.
So yeah...they really ought to make them a little more powerful. Or make it a configurable option.
Anodin Sep 9, 2015 @ 7:50am 
The automatic weapons have higher dps. Not per shot.
Ultimate Fury Sep 9, 2015 @ 7:57am 
Yeah, the only ranged weapons I use at present are the longneck rifle and the compound bow. Both have really high per shot damage, (especially if you use metal arrows with the compound bow)

I tried the assault rifle during a cave run I did by myself and it couldn't even take care of the bats without using several shots, while the bow or sniper could do it in one or two depending on level of the creature.

If you find a high quality compound bow in a drop use it as an ascendant I cheated in to test was one shotting level 70 trikes on my world using metal arrows.
Okim Sep 9, 2015 @ 8:02am 
Firearms are PvP focused weapons in their entiriety. Primitive pistol and shotgun being the introductionary weapons while AR, FP and FS - the mainstay of PvP.

Primitive pistol VS fabricated? 480 VS 455? Try using a simple pistol against a maneuveuring opponent and you`ll get the idea why faster shot/low damage AR or FB are there in the game.
The_Pastmaster Sep 9, 2015 @ 8:04am 
Nitpick: It's called a magazine. Clips are used for loading magazines. Clips are not magazines. >_<
Payne Sep 9, 2015 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by The_Pastmaster:
Nitpick: It's called a magazine. Clips are used for loading magazines. Clips are not magazines. >_<

Thanks:) I didn’t know the distinction between them because my government doesn’t think people have the right to buy guns for personal use so my weapons knowledge is fairly limited:)
Last edited by Payne; Sep 9, 2015 @ 8:45am
Stellion Sep 9, 2015 @ 8:56am 
Your table is wrong, the simple pistol is 63 damage a shot. The Fabricated pistol only does 28 as well.

But yes, if you want damage for resources, use the Longneck. If you want fast hitting damage that is kind of costly, go for the simple.

The Assault rifle only does like 29 damage, but shoots 8 rounds per second.
The_Pastmaster Sep 9, 2015 @ 10:04am 
Originally posted by dovahkiin99:
Originally posted by The_Pastmaster:
Nitpick: It's called a magazine. Clips are used for loading magazines. Clips are not magazines. >_<

Thanks:) I didn’t know the distinction between them because my government doesn’t think people have the right to buy guns for personal use so my weapons knowledge is fairly limited:)

It's a faily common misconception that get on my nerves sometimes. :) Like the ONE thing I would change about Ark is change "Clip: X" to "Mag: X".
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Date Posted: Sep 9, 2015 @ 7:23am
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