Deinonychus eggs too hard to hatch please help

[Vespasius]

I thought deinonychuses were supposed to be an early-game tame, comparable to the raptor or trike.

Instead I am sat here at level 17 with two hard-earned deinonychus eggs that I LITERALLY DIED FOR and these little needy bastards are wanting more heat. I HAVE THROWN 51 TORCHES AND 7 STANDING TORCHES at these things and they simply are too cold. This is completely not doable and I get they upped the heat to stop them hatching in the wild but PLEASE someone explain to me why they want to be submerged in lava.

I'm begging for help at this point... if anyone has any tips I could use early-game then please help. I enjoy Ark and Valguero is one of my favourite maps, I hate being let down like this.

[🦊 Hermit]

Deinos require 80-90C (176-194F) to hatch. They aren't really comparable to a raptor, their bleed and ability to latch makes them somewhat more powerful, so they're kind of a step up from the very earlygame fare. Their saddle for riding is lvl 32, so that's somewhat higher than a raptor's 18. A single deino can even kill the Island dragon boss if the player is really careful using it.

Standing torches are probably your best bet for trying to warm things up earlygame, as you can pack more of them into a small space and completely surround the egg. Another option that you might want to try though, is finding a few high melee dimetrodons. They're a pain to find as they usually hang out in the swamp, plus a pain to tame because they lose torp very fast. But in themselves they aren't too dangerous, so could potentially be tamed early if you know what you're doing.

And they give insulation in an area around them thanks to the sail on their back. That insulation stat is boosted by melee, so get a few with high melee and level up that stat whenever they get a point. Group a bunch of them all really close together, then throw down the egg in the middle - perhaps that might give enough insulation to allow it to hatch?

EDIT: Huh, on reading up a little more, I discovered otters also give a decent amount of insulation around them too - I knew that otters gave the player insulation when worn on the shoulder, but didn't realise they did to the ambient air temp around them as well (so do kairuku, but much less so not as worth it). It isn't as much as the dimetrodon, but otters are easier to tame, and smaller so you can pack more into a small space. If the dimetrodons don't work, otters may be another option to try too.

[william_es]

I've always considered them a very late game tame, primarily for boss battles. Having a few of those latch onto a boss can shred it very quickly. Steady consistent damage over time.

They're a little on a delicate side for everything else, as far as I care. I call tames like raptors "snack". They get gobbled up in one or two bites from the stuff I normally ride around on. If I get attacked by them, and swat them like you would a mosquito on your arm.

[Mathius]

Early game? They absolutely shred the Dragon and the Manticore.

They're glass cannons.

They're buggy as sin as well.

They don't latch well at all.

Killing a boss with a deino (or possibly just the bleed) means you don't get the element.

And they regularly teleport around to your last save point if you try to jump when out of stam.

I used them on a private server on Valguero and decided to ride one back from the green Obelisk to my base. I was using the KBD ones, which are supposed to have been repaired.

I got teleported back INTO the boss arena, with nothing in there at all. I had to have the admin teleport me out.

[Femme Fatale]

I put about 17-18 standing torches in circle with small opening facing me and toss eggs in works 100% (inside enclosed building).

[CrEaToXx]

The Hunted mod frequently spawns them as pack of 12-15 in early to mid game. The only thing even more annoying than a frenzied Therizino, is a pack of Raptors with feathers. You make damn sure not to engage them before you do not have access to explosives that hit on spot.

[guig]

Originally posted by Icelord:

I HAVE THROWN 51 TORCHES AND 7 STANDING TORCHES at these things and they simply are too cold. This is completely not doable and I get they upped the heat to stop them hatching in the wild but PLEASE someone explain to me why they want to be submerged in lava.

-put more torches down (yes I know simple answer, but it works :p)

-relocate to somewhere warmer. like a volcano/lava area. even without going that far, by default some biomes and their whereabouts are warmer/colder on each map, so relocating a few hundred meters can make a difference.

-as you seem to have noticed, but to confirm, some fire sources are more efficient than others.

-incube your egg inside a structure. it will be way more effective. just make a large enough door (or not if cryopod) to lead the baby outside once born (if requiered).

-in the end: yes ! the more the better x)

BUT:

Originally posted by Icelord:

I thought deinonychuses were supposed to be an early-game tame, comparable to the raptor or trike.
Instead I am sat here at level 17 [...] I enjoy Ark and Valguero is one of my favourite maps, I hate being let down like this.

you are a liar ;) with that much experience you obviously don't know about the arks except maybe this map you saw before playing. you don't even now yet if it's your favorite one :p welcome to the arks !

[Vespasius]

Originally posted by guig:

you are a liar ;) with that much experience you obviously don't know about the arks except maybe this map you saw before playing. you don't even now yet if it's your favorite one :p welcome to the arks !

That's a little harsh, especially considering I have tried all (barring the centre and the lost island) the maps for a good few hours whether at home or at a friend's house. Valguero and Fjordur are firmly my favourites, and I simply haven't had much experience with Deinonychuses. I only recently did some research and found out their incubating temperature.

Although I don't know why I said I was "let down" to be honest. That was a weird statement.

[guig]

indeed sorry, I don't know why I came back just to edit this. it was completly unecessary. it was a long day... sorry again.

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[Vespasius]

Originally posted by guig:

indeed sorry, I don't know why I came back just to edit this. it was completly unecessary. it was a long day... sorry again.

All good man we all have days like that ;)

[larpo71]

To be honest the Deinonychuses is not an early game tame by no means, and being one of the few eggs used to make extraordinary kibble it is among the most valuable eggs in the game. For its size the Deinoychuses is one of the strongest dinos in its class and capable of defeating much larger dinos and it gets a pack bonus in groups. Also it is one of the best dinos to use as a cave mount. The fact that a bold player can get the eggs early in the game doesn't mean it is going to be easy to hatch and the heat required does balance this out as you have to work hard to get this Dino. I've used group of 4 or 5 to kill Rexes without issue and once leveled you can pretty much dominate most other dinos with the obvious exceptions. Once you start collecting these eggs you will find few dinos can stand up to a pack of them.

[Mathius]

Originally posted by larpo71:

To be honest the Deinonychuses is not an early game tame by no means, and being one of the few eggs used to make extraordinary kibble it is among the most valuable eggs in the game. For its size the Deinoychuses is one of the strongest dinos in its class and capable of defeating much larger dinos and it gets a pack bonus in groups. Also it is one of the best dinos to use as a cave mount. The fact that a bold player can get the eggs early in the game doesn't mean it is going to be easy to hatch and the heat required does balance this out as you have to work hard to get this Dino. I've used group of 4 or 5 to kill Rexes without issue and once leveled you can pretty much dominate most other dinos with the obvious exceptions. Once you start collecting these eggs you will find few dinos can stand up to a pack of them.

Another good point. You can easily take down a wild Carc with one (haven't tried a Giga). If they weren't so buggy with the whole teleport thing, I'd use them more probably. (although the weight will always suck)