"I have more hours than you!"

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Firstly, leave your thoughts about the new patch at the door. We're not here to discuss that.

I was debating if I should even post this, but I feel it's something the community needs to talk about seeing as this 'argument' is spliting the community and creating a group of elitists that trample over others just because of the time spent in the game. I think this needs to stop because the amount of hours you play does not determine your knowledge.

Just as an example...let's look at League of Legends (I know you're rolling your eyes but bare with me...)

There are people who have put countless hours into that game. So much so that your "2,000" hours are nothing in comparison. But despite the time some have put into the game, they are "Bronze" or low ranked. Why do you think that is? From the logic this community has been trying to create, shouldn't the more hours invested mean that they are superior? The facts show they are not.

It doesn't matter how much time you put into something. People with less time can still be better than you, and understand the game better than you. Hours are not meant to measure knowledge or skill. They are only to say how much you've played the game, not how much of the game you've played. While League is obviously very different from ARK in almost every aspect, it proves the point that a person isn't better simply because of their time spent.

However, there is also a fine line to the amount of time needed in a game to understand it. Surely someone can't pick up the game and know it all in a few minutes. But talking down to people who have invested more than 100 hours seems silly. They've invested time into the game, have had their own adventures, and should know the basic by then. You don't need 1,000 hours or more to understand ARK or how it works. But your hours don't measure your skill or knowledge of ARK either.

I don't think I'll reply to anyone who posts here unless I find a very well written and constructive post. It's great that some of you love the game enough to spent so much time with it, but please remember that you're not better than others simply because of it. With that said, I leave you to your flaming, +1's, and other comments.

Thank you for spending the time reading this and I hope we can abolish this problem before it rips the community further apart than it already is.

[Rafurious]

To be little on topic:

Time played dosnt allow you to be a ♥♥♥♥ yes :p.
Anyway you need to be played this game alot more than only 10 or 100hours, to have seen quite some things, not everything becouse there are serveral different mode's in the game, and gameplays, different servers etc, this game for me offers more than these days MMORPG's,
People can just enjoy a game, + hours played dosnt say much either becouse you could have started on several different servers to see how it is there, or becouse your buddys just gave up/quited and you search for new people etc..

But I do get your point somewhere alot of servers have there established 'alpha' tribes, and yea they got all the advantedge, and some are aholes about it others are 'ok'.
And yea those aholes might be good, but not all, most Alpha tribes have there status coz there either alot of people, or they where there on server start never switched, merged other tribes etc etc to stay on top,.
But I dunno if there actually is an 'Alpha' tribe wich just says lets go to new server and take it over, that I would call a real Alpha tribe, and for that you do need hours, knowledge about the game, or just be a zerg yet that dosnt always make it either, Hi DouyuTV :D.
And it dosnt mean you can't find a person along that road with only a 100+hours to fit that gameplay, tough most would say you need atleast 300/500h+ before you can apply for us unless there buddys of buddys with friends with benefits :P.
Also there will always be people who think there better or just look down to people, human nature cant do ♥♥♥♥ about that!

Anyway loads of things, loads of different people and gameplay, loads of betrayers also that brings this game, or griefers, scammers etc, good they will implement Tribe Rankings, this will make it a little 'safer' recruiting people, coz ive had it all by now and done trusting people lol.
Some like Building, some like pvp, some like taming, well you need all of it together sorta, the game is not rly ment to play it alone, unless you go singleplayer, and then you still have pvp, pvpve, hc pvp...

But all in all this game got alot to offer.

[Vince]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfhart:

Hutball was awesome.

yup yup ; )

[Aphotep]

Publicado originalmente por Urazz:

Publicado originalmente por Aphotep:

I'm at 200 hours at the moment. I have yet to explore any caves and fight bosses. I won't comment on these anyway.
I've had more than enough time to explore the surface, tame and kill dinos and generally play around on the island to form a well-founded opinion about what I've seen.

Then that is on you. I've played almost 320 hours and have done pretty much everything this game has to offer so far.

And you can be ready to take on alphas at 100 hours and you could be ready for a giga at that point. Big thing is that the game is not nearly the same it was at launch and it's changed alot.

I diden't complain that I never was in any of the caves or done boss fights (if that's how you understood my post), I just diden't feel the urge to do so.
I've drowned most Alphas I met (one spawned on the footpaw and ran straight for my wood base for some reason, lured it away on my Ptera, about three hours into a new SP game), killes some others with my Argent.

I've also had more than enough time to realize that the game becomes a serious grind once you want to build something big with stone or metal (not as bad since I have a good Mammoth and four Doeds roaming the vulcano and doing stone gathering for me ). I'm fine with that for now, but once the tek tier is in place, I do hope they will revisit this and adjust resource costs for everything. I don't need to play another 500 hours to see that.
So far, I've only bred a couple pets for fun, not lookign for any perfect stats or anything, just to have that cute baby saber in my house. Though I admit to adjusting the values so I can actually do stuff besides standing next to it so it doesen't starve, as that's not how I imagine multiple weeks of my playing ARK (remember, SP world does not persist once I leave).

[Mr.Grey]

Publicado originalmente por Zederia:

100 hours? See all it has to offer? I laugh at that statement. After 100 hours you are not ready to take on alpha dinos, you are NOT ready for a giga, you are not in top-tier engrams, I could go on, I won't.

at about 400-500 you're in top tier, and should be read for all the above.

At the near 1600 hours I have I cannot go to point X on the map from the ground, I can only go there from the air. you give me coords and I can get there from the air, but I can't do it from the ground. Oh, and one more thing, GPS NOT allowed

Maybe on a Vanilla server, or in SP but i was taking on Alpha's when they were released, and i just now hit 500+ hours. When Alpha dino's where first released i wasnt near 500 hours.

[Vince]

Publicado originalmente por Buster:

... skyrocket ...

oh that xDr i m sure you love decoy ; )

[White, the Loiterer]

If I start up Ark and let it sit at the main menu for 5,000 hours does that make me the best authority on whether or not a patch is good?

[Magic Bean]

This is a very trivial "argument" and nonsensical, for the most part. Someone decided they are the big cheese because they've played x number of hours and someone else got mad about that big-cheese attitude and started a whole discussion thread about it to basically say, "your opinion isn't valid."

[Aphotep]

Publicado originalmente por Blame It On the Aliens:

This is a very trivial "argument" and nonsensical, for the most part. Someone decided they are the big cheese because they've played x number of hours and someone else got mad about that big-cheese attitude and started a whole discussion thread about it to basically say, "your opinion isn't valid."

Nope. A lot of people felt high and mighty because of their 1000+ hours in the game and started dismissing valid opinions of others based on their 'deeper understanding of the game', then someone decided to make a topic to adress this.

[Vince]

Publicado originalmente por Aphotep:

Nope. A lot of people felt high and mighty because of their 1000+ hours in the game and started dismissing valid opinions of others based on their 'deeper understanding of the game', then someone decided to make a topic to adress this.

"pseudo" 'deepper understanding of the game" xDr aaaahhhhh freud and jung and "ego" xDr

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A9go

this start gettin' real old and "mystic" ; )

[Mr.Grey]

Publicado originalmente por WarlordOfRome:

If I start up Ark and let it sit at the main menu for 5,000 hours does that make me the best authority on whether or not a patch is good?

Yes.

[Peanut]

I don't care if someone has more hours than me. I care that a lot of the PvP players asking for a nerf were not as advanced as all the big tribes they had a problem with. And in PvE it was the opposite. Advanced tribes asking for a nerf Because the game "has become too easy" not realising they had just become more advanced and better at the game.

And because of this everyone else has to suffer a massive slap in the face which makes a bunch of our dinos in the higher tier ♥♥♥♥ instead of a reasonable slowly introduced balancing.

[1-800-I-Fix-Gens]

This is so true! I know im a tad bit late but I just wanted to but in. I have 3-5k hours on ark so I know most things about the game and have better knowledge about the game in general rather than someone with 200 hours, but that doesn't mean im better than them. I play on PVP and I know how to do most things like how to tame dinos, where to get resources, etc. but that person with 200 hours might be VERY skilled at PVP and could beat me every time. That just means im better at more PvE or utility things while that person is better at PVP, I may have more hours than him but that definitely doesn't mean that I have a god complex and could one-up that player in everything.

[retsam1]

Publicado originalmente por Wendigo:

This is so true! I know im a tad bit late but I just wanted to but in. I have 3-5k hours on ark so I know most things about the game and have better knowledge about the game in general rather than someone with 200 hours, but that doesn't mean im better than them. I play on PVP and I know how to do most things like how to tame dinos, where to get resources, etc. but that person with 200 hours might be VERY skilled at PVP and could beat me every time. That just means im better at more PvE or utility things while that person is better at PVP, I may have more hours than him but that definitely doesn't mean that I have a god complex and could one-up that player in everything.

4 years tends to probably not be defined as "a tad bit late"..... :P

[Brittney Griner]

Publicado originalmente por Sean:

What you fail to address, however, is the countless changes those of us with months of extra playing time, have already experienced. The different strategies tried, the bugs discovered and dealt with, etc. yes, you can bring new ideas to the game, but our experience *does* far outweigh yours. We understand the actual mechanics far better, and thus, our opinions are more technical.

Even at 1,300+ hours for me, my tribe leader has 3k hours in. We still learn new tactics every week. Combined with out past understanding, we learn how to be more efficient, what works and what doesn't, and it's why we are the Alpha (benevolent, though) on Server 37. You're always welcome to see how we do things: No volcano turrets allowed. No spawn blocking allowed. Dinos killed accidentally get replaced. We trade with lower level tribes to get them built up. Etc.

All that has been learned from tons of experience: it's better to cooperate with tribes than to run them off the server. We share our experience, and as a result, everyone is happier.

[Brittney Griner]

Publicado originalmente por retsam1:

Publicado originalmente por Wendigo:

This is so true! I know im a tad bit late but I just wanted to but in. I have 3-5k hours on ark so I know most things about the game and have better knowledge about the game in general rather than someone with 200 hours, but that doesn't mean im better than them. I play on PVP and I know how to do most things like how to tame dinos, where to get resources, etc. but that person with 200 hours might be VERY skilled at PVP and could beat me every time. That just means im better at more PvE or utility things while that person is better at PVP, I may have more hours than him but that definitely doesn't mean that I have a god complex and could one-up that player in everything.

4 years tends to probably not be defined as "a tad bit late"..... :P

lmao just noticed this....