Ark Aberration setting up Tek?

[Anthreris]

So I've collected all the resources I need to make a Tek Replicator, excluding polymer, but I'm trying to figure out how to bring up the resources to the surface obelisk zone in upper left corner. My base is pretty much adjacent to the surface exit, so I'd prefer to use the surface to make my replicator rather than going down to the radiation zone.

I'm also playing solo on boosted settings, and I still don't really have a tame capable of hauling 5,000 ingots along with other the other materials up to the zone. The closest thing I have is a Rock Drake with around 2,000 weight carrying capacity.
I suppose I could always farm for more levels to increase my Drake's weight. Or multiple trips.

1. But does the obelisk keep non-uploaded items in its inventory, even outside render distance?

2. How are you transporting your resources to make Tek?

3. Does everyone instead just make the trek all the way down to the Rockwell terminal?


Thanks for any response.

[Smaugi]

Didn't play in a while but can't you just use a drop? The surface ones 100% work , so maybe the underground drops work too , it would be much easier.
Also you could use a basilisk if you have one , they have alot of weight.

[Anthreris]

Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:

Didn't play in a while but can't you just use a drop? The surface ones 100% work , so maybe the underground drops work too , it would be much easier.
Also you could use a basilisk if you have one , they have alot of weight.

I don't have a basilisk yet, I haven't had very good luck finding many nor getting them to stop burrowing. And this is despite having plenty of Rock Drake eggs.

Although that would help for transporting goods down to the Rockwell terminal, just not to the surface. I guess I'll continue searching while I make polymer.

[🦊 Hermit]

Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:

Didn't play in a while but can't you just use a drop? The surface ones 100% work , so maybe the underground drops work too , it would be much easier.

Drops work on servers, but as far as I recall they don't on single player mode.

However to answer your question OP, yes items in the obelisk terminal should remain when you leave the area. It's just drops which eat your items when they vanish. So you should be okay to make multiple trips to get everything up there.

I would second the word for a basilisk though, even if you don't use it for this particular job. They're a really nice tame, great for a combat land caravan with some stealth abilities too. They work pretty well on Abs itself, but transfer them to a more flat, open map where they can use their speed and wide turning radius better and they become sublime.

[Rotiart]

Upload the items using a drop, download them at the terminal. If you can use glider wings while encumbered you can just glide down to the Rockwell terminal and craft it there, then use a cryo'd rock drake to get back

[🦊 Hermit]

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Upload the items using a drop, download them at the terminal.

Far as I recall uploading at drops doesn't work on single player either...?

[Alucard †]

I used a Basilisk cause mine had like 13k weight.

Parked it near the cliff to the surface with all the mats needed and them i did rounds with one of my Rock Drakes (which had 2k weight) putting mats for Tek replicator in the obelisk.

[Smaugi]

Originally posted by Gman:

Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:

Didn't play in a while but can't you just use a drop? The surface ones 100% work , so maybe the underground drops work too , it would be much easier.
Also you could use a basilisk if you have one , they have alot of weight.

I don't have a basilisk yet, I haven't had very good luck finding many nor getting them to stop burrowing. And this is despite having plenty of Rock Drake eggs.

Although that would help for transporting goods down to the Rockwell terminal, just not to the surface. I guess I'll continue searching while I make polymer.

Get a light pet, set it to passive, put a metal foundation on top of it, lure the basilisk to it , drop eggs next to it FROM YOUR INVENTORY not Dino inventory or it won't work , the pet will be taking the agro but the foundation will keep it Safe and the basilisk will not burrow as long as it can target IT and it will Eat the eggs eventually.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:

drop eggs next to it FROM YOUR INVENTORY not Dino inventory or it won't work

Huh? What? I dropped eggs from stealthed Rock Drake inventory near Basilisk and it ate them and tamed.

Only catch is that i had to dismount momentarily to make it "unbury" itself cause even unstealthed Drake didn't trigger it.

But the basilisk 100% ate the eggs dropped from my Drake's inventory.
I was able to reproduce this method for 3 more Basilisk tames.

Didn't need to faff about with foundations or light pets either.

[Smaugi]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:

drop eggs next to it FROM YOUR INVENTORY not Dino inventory or it won't work

Huh? What? I dropped eggs from stealthed Rock Drake inventory near Basilisk and it ate them and tamed.

Only catch is that i had to dismount momentarily to make it "unbury" itself cause even unstealthed Drake didn't trigger it.

But the basilisk 100% ate the eggs dropped from my Drake's inventory.
I was able to reproduce this method for 3 more Basilisk tames.

Didn't need to faff about with foundations or light pets either.

Maybe they updated it , but a few years back if I threw it from dino inventory it would refuse to eat them at all , and their aggro is wierd, without anything they can attack they will burrow if the 1st egg does not tame and they will lose taming effectiveness each time they burrow.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Lord Gwyn:

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Huh? What? I dropped eggs from stealthed Rock Drake inventory near Basilisk and it ate them and tamed.

Only catch is that i had to dismount momentarily to make it "unbury" itself cause even unstealthed Drake didn't trigger it.

But the basilisk 100% ate the eggs dropped from my Drake's inventory.
I was able to reproduce this method for 3 more Basilisk tames.

Didn't need to faff about with foundations or light pets either.

Maybe they updated it , but a few years back if I threw it from dino inventory it would refuse to eat them at all , and their aggro is wierd, without anything they can attack they will burrow if the 1st egg does not tame and they will lose taming effectiveness each time they burrow.

Ah guess i was lucky they didn't burrow while eating eggs.

[🦊 Hermit]

If you lure a basil into a taming trap with a foundation floor, it can't bury at all. Surround it with walls so it can't get out, and build a platform above to drop eggs down from.

[Anthreris]

Thanks for all the responses, I'll keep on looking for a basilisk and use a trap. I haven't done a dino wipe for a while, so I suppose that would probably help for finding basilisk.

I know this is slighlty off topic, but how good are other Aberrant creatures outside of Aberration? If the basilisk is that good, then I imagine something like the Rock Drake would be good as well, and Reaper Kings on maps without charge light.

I'm unable to upload via underground drops, probably because of the aforementioned single player that 🦊 Hermit alluded to. But its awesome that the items won't disappear from the obelisk, since that makes it easier and allows multiple trips.

Thanks again I'll probably stick to the surface terminal but still consider the Rockwell terminal as an option.

[Rotiart]

Originally posted by Gman:

Thanks for all the responses, I'll keep on looking for a basilisk and use a trap. I haven't done a dino wipe for a while, so I suppose that would probably help for finding basilisk.

I know this is slighlty off topic, but how good are other Aberrant creatures outside of Aberration? If the basilisk is that good, then I imagine something like the Rock Drake would be good as well, and Reaper Kings on maps without charge light.

I'm unable to upload via underground drops, probably because of the aforementioned single player that 🦊 Hermit alluded to. But its awesome that the items won't disappear from the obelisk, since that makes it easier and allows multiple trips.

Thanks again I'll probably stick to the surface terminal but still consider the Rockwell terminal as an option.

Rock Drakes are kind've outclassed by Manas as a travel mount, unless you're really good with rock drakes and know how to bunny hop. They're DEFINITELY outclassed by Maewings

Basilisks aren't very useful outside of Aberration, and they can't be bred either, so the ones you take with you are the ones you have

Reapers are useful outside of Aberration, and high end Reapers are good bossers, but are eventually outclassed by bred Rexes. Like Basilisks, they can't be bred

Ravagers are pretty useless as tames even on Aberration

Karkinos have a few niche uses, can't be bred though.

Roll Rats are good for travelling along flat surfaces, so they actually become more useful outside of Aberration, but they're still not good

Light Pets are good on Aberration, but they're not very useful outside of Aberration

[🦊 Hermit]

Originally posted by Rotiart:

Rock Drakes are kind've outclassed by Manas as a travel mount, unless you're really good with rock drakes and know how to bunny hop. They're DEFINITELY outclassed by Maewings

Basilisks aren't very useful outside of Aberration, and they can't be bred either, so the ones you take with you are the ones you have

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Karkinos have a few niche uses, can't be bred though.

I have to say I would disagree with a couple of these quite strongly. No offence intended, I totally respect that we all have differing opinions. But from my own experience, personally this would be my take on them:

*) Unless the maewing is mutated, I feel that drakes are much better when used properly. I tried a bred and fully imprinted maewing a while after they came out, after I had heard everyone raving about their speed, and honestly I was distinctly unimpressed. Using my drake's diving and air darting abilities I could travel across the map pretty convincingly faster than it. After trying them for a half hour or so to see what they were capable of, I promptly cryo'd them and left them in my fridge, haven't got them out since.

Manas can put up more of a fight against the drake, I'll grant you that. But even there, they can be outclassed by large mountains, like for example the huge cliff north of the desert on Ragnarok - the mana has to jump-jet upwards multiple times before travelling forward, and sometimes can't get high enough, whereas the drake can dart up such surfaces very swiftly and make ground progress too while doing it. Not to mention, for manas to be worth it they have to be heavily levelled, and ideally mutated, in stamina, otherwise they run out extremely quickly and get stuck in an overly long poop animation spam until they regain it.

*) For basilisks, I would say quite the opposite - the map they were introduced on is their worst enemy, but if you take them out of that environment to a more flat, open space, they really shine. Their wide turning circle makes navigation on Aberration's cramped, twisted pathways very difficult, and because that map often has ledges, rocks and crystal deposits scattered across the main thoroughfares, when trying to burrow underground to avoid agro you'll often hit one of those and pop back up to the surface, drawing the attention of predators in the area.

But on a more flat, open map such as Rag's desert, the Island's plains or Extinction's wasteland, this getting blocked and popping to the surface is much less of an issue. You can travel underground and avoid enemies much more easily. And because you aren't in the twisty tunnels of Abs, you can open up the basilisk's speed more easily too - it's actually one of the fastest land creatures in the game when you get the chance to use it. I play without flyers on all my saves, and a basilisk is one of my most important and valuable tames for land caravans and weight haulage. I transfer it with me to every map I play.

*) And on the karkinos: This one I would agree with that it is niche, however it can be a handy niche if you are playing solo. One of the best ways to farm materials in single player is to pick up a gathering creature such as a doed or ankylo and bring it close to a resource node, letting the dino hit it on it's own. Most use flyers to drag the harvest creature around, but that has a limitation in that you can only pick up one dino using them. However karkinos can carry two, one in each claw. So as long as you don't have to cover a large amount of ground to reach your harvesting area, you can effectively double the speed of your harvesting by using them to carry your other tames.

[Rotiart]

Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:

Manas can put up more of a fight against the drake, I'll grant you that. But even there, they can be outclassed by large mountains, like for example the huge cliff north of the desert on Ragnarok - the mana has to jump-jet upwards multiple times before travelling forward, and sometimes can't get high enough, whereas the drake can dart up such surfaces very swiftly and make ground progress too while doing it. Not to mention, for manas to be worth it they have to be heavily levelled, and ideally mutated, in stamina, otherwise they run out extremely quickly and get stuck in an overly long poop animation spam until they regain it.

Using manas is actually pretty similar to how I use my rockdrakes. Jump, dash, hit the ground, rinse and repeat. If you dismount after exhausting a Mana it gets it's stamina back really quickly, and they can actually defend themselves reasonably which is why I prefer a good mana to a good rock drake for travel, but the Tek Saddle does equalise them a bit.

Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:

*) For basilisks, I would say quite the opposite - the map they were introduced on is their worst enemy, but if you take them out of that environment to a more flat, open space, they really shine. Their wide turning circle makes navigation on Aberration's cramped, twisted pathways very difficult, and because that map often has ledges, rocks and crystal deposits scattered across the main thoroughfares, when trying to burrow underground to avoid agro you'll often hit one of those and pop back up to the surface, drawing the attention of predators in the area.

But on a more flat, open map such as Rag's desert, the Island's plains or Extinction's wasteland, this getting blocked and popping to the surface is much less of an issue. You can travel underground and avoid enemies much more easily. And because you aren't in the twisty tunnels of Abs, you can open up the basilisk's speed more easily too - it's actually one of the fastest land creatures in the game when you get the chance to use it. I play without flyers on all my savegames, and a basilisk is one of my most important and valuable tames for land caravans and weight haulage. I transfer it with me to every map I play.

That's fair enough. I play with Fliers and Tek Suits so there's not a whole of reason for me to use a Basilisk ever, I can see how they would be useful if you had neither of those.

Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:

*) And on the karkinos: This one I would agree with that it is niche, however it can be a handy niche if you are playing solo. One of the best ways to farm materials in single player is to pick up a gathering creature such as a doed or ankylo and bring it close to a resource node, letting the dino hit it on it's own. Most use flyers to drag the harvest creature around, but that has a limitation in that you can only pick up one dino using them. However karkinos can carry two, one in each claw. So as long as you don't have to cover a large amount of ground to reach your harvesting area, you can effectively double the speed of your harvesting by using them to carry your other tames.

Karkinos are GREAT on Aberration if you're duo farming, but aside from that one instance I prefer argies for duo farming unless it's on a map with obscenely spaced out metal like Extinction. Of course, on Extinction Karkinos are great for duo farming wood, but for wood if you really want to rake it in you'll want to hit the Forest Titan