ARK: Survival Evolved

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nipZx Jan 24, 2023 @ 5:00am
What is the best map for non dedicated server with 2 player PVE ?
We are playing island right now. We have all the dlc maps. The center has a bug (you can't enter water you are teleporting host also cave too) so we can't play the center. Also we don't like future maps like extinction, genesis etc
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retsam1 Jan 24, 2023 @ 6:17am 
Originally posted by Kaan:
We are playing island right now. We have all the dlc maps. The center has a bug (you can't enter water you are teleporting host also cave too) so we can't play the center. Also we don't like future maps like extinction, genesis etc

As mentioned, non dedicated issue you're referring to is related to tethering and not the maps. It is one of the reasons(and there are others) why people opt to convert their game play to a dedicated server version and just only play when they and their friends can play together.

Outside of that, we can't answer "best" for you because, quite frankly, we're not you nor your friend. Its going to be a choice up to the both of you. Outside of that if your wants are to follow the story canon progression of the game, then The Island, Scorched Earth, Aberration, Extinction, Genesis 1 and then Genesis 2 is the progression. If you dont care about that then any of the free dlc maps or even mod maps that you research the offerings of to best match you and your friend would be what you probably should consider.
Liralen Jan 25, 2023 @ 11:00pm 
As other players have said, the issue is non-dedicated tethering, which does not exist on a dedicated server. Dedicated servers generally don't require more hardware than non-dedicated unless running multiple servers at once, in which case the PC running the server might need more RAM.

However, your characters, dinos, and bases, etc. will only exist on the PC running the dedicated server, so be careful of joining a stranger's dedicated server.

If you choose not to make a dedicated server, I would suggest Ragnarok. It doesn't require you to enter water too much, which triggers the tethering, but eventually you will need to bite the bullet of entering water to obtain silica and black pearls and biotoxin (the latter is used to make Shocking Tranquilizer Darts, which is more effective than narcoberry based tranquilizers).

What Ragnarok does have is a very easy new player experience, but also has dinos that are useful for either doing end game content or making it easier to obtain dinos that will help you to obtain dinos for end game content. It also has some Scorched Earth resources.

Or any map really that has these dinos or can do similar things, but I don't think any of the maps are as easy for newbs as Ragnarok or Valguero, except for Genesis 2 and Extinction, which you've said you don't want to play the sci fi maps:

Griffin - notable because it's a flyer that you can use a taming weapon while riding it. There are other flyers who can, but griffin's are an easy tame. (Edited Note: you usually have to use a taming pen, because a griffin will fly away once it is close to being knocked out, and they can fly away very fast. If you already have a flyer that you can shoot from that can keep up with a fleeing griffin, you don't need a griffin. There are a lot of videos on how to make a griffin taming pen)

With a griffin or any flyer you can use a taming weapon while riding it can make it easier to tame a quetzal. Once you tame even a level 1 quetzal, you can use it to make a trap on it that you can use to tame any quetzal. A quetzal can be use to pick up bigger dinos than most other flyers can and drop them into a taming pen. https://www.dododex.com/capabilities/carry

Wyverns - In my experience, the biggest hassle with taming dinos and not using a taming pen is the threat of nearby aggressive dinos who get in the way. A high level fire wyvern kills them without risk, with little risk of harming the dino you are wanting to tame, since the fire AOE it emits is very short range. But also requires some practice to use. I used to use them to wipe out Alpha's, because Alpha's build up over time (there is a "Survival of the Fittest" effect in Ark).
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nipZx Jan 28, 2023 @ 6:45am 
Guys I know tether distance limits. That's not the problem. You can adjust the tether distane setting up to 999999. By doing it this way, we can get more than 2000 meters away from the island and a few other maps. The center map has direct bugs. The moment you enter the water, if you want to stand next to your friend, you teleport directly to him. I am not the only one experiencing this, this issue has been mentioned on the internet. Especially we can easily play the Island map, whether we enter the water or move away for kilometers. I just wanted to clarify this
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Serious Jan 28, 2023 @ 8:13am 
I played the game together with my brother at every official and many community maps always on non-dedicated server.
The worst is as you experienced yourself: The center
I would rate them like this:
01. aberration
02. ragnarok
03. scorched earth
04. crystal isles
05. lost island
06. island
07. valguero
08. fjordur
09. genesis 1
10. extinction
11. genesis 2
12. the center

We prefer exploring, basebuidling and taming over boss fights, TEK and other weired ark things.

Tether distance is between 5-20 depending on map we play.
E.g. on better optimized maps like island 20 runs pretty smooth.
On genesis2 even 5 seems to much for the map.
🦊 Hermit Jan 28, 2023 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Kaan:
Guys I know tether distance limits. That's not the problem. You can adjust the tether distane setting up to 999999. By doing it this way, we can get more than 2000 meters away from the island and a few other maps. The center map has direct bugs. The moment you enter the water, if you want to stand next to your friend, you teleport directly to him. I am not the only one experiencing this, this issue has been mentioned on the internet. Especially we can easily play the Island map, whether we enter the water or move away for kilometers. I just wanted to clarify this

It isn't a bug, it is still the tether system which is causing it.

The tether will allow you to travel a distance away from each other, but it will not allow the host to enter another zone, where a new section of the map needs to be loaded, without players being teleported to them. On most maps, caves and oceans are counted as another zone - when the host enters said zone, the landscape outside that zone is unloaded from memory and ceases to exist in it's playable state, so other players on the map are teleported because the place they are in is no longer in the game's memory.

This happens regardless of tether distance, because it has to do with loading sections of the map which are counted as different zones. It is the tether which is responsible, and no setting for said tether will fix it. Playing multiplayer games on a dedicated server is the only way to avoid it.
Originally posted by Kaan:
Guys I know tether distance limits. That's not the problem. You can adjust the tether distane setting up to 999999. By doing it this way, we can get more than 2000 meters away from the island and a few other maps. The center map has direct bugs. The moment you enter the water, if you want to stand next to your friend, you teleport directly to him. I am not the only one experiencing this, this issue has been mentioned on the internet. Especially we can easily play the Island map, whether we enter the water or move away for kilometers. I just wanted to clarify this
I know what you mean, going into caves, Aberration and the center entering water were worse for this. Tether distance seems to work if you're on the same plane level. When you start going underground that's when it starts causing problems. But for some reason the center had water problems. So I started to use ASM (ark server manager) and made a server on my PC so far I'm able to only get it to work through LAN. If I wanna use the same computer to play the game as I'm running the server.
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Date Posted: Jan 24, 2023 @ 5:00am
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