Any way to slightly lower the height of a floor / foundation?

[Excessive Paranoia]

Like the title asks, is there any way (mod or technique) to slightly reduce the height (think 1/8-1/4 of a wall) of a foundation or floor/ceiling piece while keeping it "attached" to an adjacent piece? Conversely, are there any mods that deepen foundations so that they can be used even as the ground starts to fall away on a slope?

I'm trying to build an attached dino barn for my house, but the terrain just isn't cooperating as I'm on an island and the ground is sloping toward the water. I know I can use ceilings and pillars, but I'm aware that dinos seem to fall through these, so I want to keep their use in the main floor to a minimum. As such, I need a way to slightly reduce the height of the foundations for the barn while still keeping it attacheds to my house (to be connected with stairs / ramps) so that variations in terrain affect them less, or I need to find a way to increase the height at which I can still use foundations rather than needing to switch to ceilings.

Thanks.

[Swissky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sZ3UBBm0ec

he does it on a raft/platformsaddle but it works the same on the ground

[Excessive Paranoia]

Originally posted by Neme:

This might be what you are looking for.. but it has not been updated nor have I even used the mod myself for a good while..

Last updated 19 OCT 2015
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=533828549

I'm already using corrected structures, which has no-collision built into it. This wouldn't help me in my specific situation though, as the issue isn't that the ground is rising above my foundations, but rather its falling away as I'm trying to build outward.

[Excessive Paranoia]

Originally posted by TheSwissman6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sZ3UBBm0ec

he does it on a raft/platformsaddle but it works the same on the ground

I will have to give that another try... wasn't able to get it to work the first time I tried, but it could have been because I was using corrected pillars instead of normal ones.

[{Sm0k}]

I had never tried it myself until my wife was attempting to build a breed house of her own and was laying foundations down. Essentially what she did was lay her first layer of foundations (IE your house thats already built) and then she started laying down a second set of foundations and brought them together.

I spent an hour or so lining it up perfectly so it would connect and look right but it is still essentially 2 different levels of foundations. I had to go 2 foundations away and eyeball it as straight as possible and lay one down, and then lay another back towards my 1st set of foundations and see how it worked out.

Had to play with the roof some to get it to not have a gap. Went 1 wall down to fill in the hole where the lower roof on the 2nd set of foundations didnt quite line up.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700812645

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813777

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813800

[Gravetech(Kane)]

this is what i did a hidden lake

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813647

under foundation / piller
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813896
outside prospective
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813862
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813880

i did this cuss i wanted more space both for a farm and my crafting living area, this seems to do the job i just have a small wall guarding the underside to keep dimorphdons and compys from being irrtating.

[Excessive Paranoia]

Originally posted by Gravetech(Kane):

this is what i did a hidden lake

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813647

under foundation / piller
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813896
outside prospective
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813862
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813880

i did this cuss i wanted more space both for a farm and my crafting living area, this seems to do the job i just have a small wall guarding the underside to keep dimorphdons and compys from being irrtating.

I really want to avoid using pillars and ceilings as much as poassible on the main floor of the barn since I'm going to wall off any elevated parts for aesthetics and I don't want to have to deconstruct the walls to get dinos out if they fall through.

Originally posted by Sm0k:

I had never tried it myself until my wife was attempting to build a breed house of her own and was laying foundations down. Essentially what she did was lay her first layer of foundations (IE your house thats already built) and then she started laying down a second set of foundations and brought them together.

I spent an hour or so lining it up perfectly so it would connect and look right but it is still essentially 2 different levels of foundations. I had to go 2 foundations away and eyeball it as straight as possible and lay one down, and then lay another back towards my 1st set of foundations and see how it worked out.

Had to play with the roof some to get it to not have a gap. Went 1 wall down to fill in the hole where the lower roof on the 2nd set of foundations didnt quite line up.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700812645

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813777

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700813800

I have tried that a couple of times, but I'm so much of a perfectionist that I'd probably spend 2-3 hours trying to get it perfect before getting frustrated.

[{Sm0k}]

Mine ended up lining up perfectly but yeah, I spent a good 30min to an hour working on it. Used K for third person and went through multiple trials and errors.

Edit: The ramp itself is redundant, as you can just step up onto the foundations. As for the roof, if you're trying 2 different levels of foundations there really isnt anything you can do about it unless you're dropping an entire wall height down to your second level.

[Gravetech(Kane)]

Originally posted by Excessive Paranoia:

Originally posted by Gravetech(Kane):

I really want to avoid using pillars and ceilings as much as poassible on the main floor of the barn since I'm going to wall off any elevated parts for aesthetics and I don't want to have to deconstruct the walls to get dinos out if they fall through.

Originally posted by Sm0k:

I had never tried it myself until my wife was attempting to build a breed house of her own and was laying foundations down. Essentially what she did was lay her first layer of foundations (IE your house thats already built) and then she started laying down a second set of foundations and brought them together.

I spent an hour or so lining it up perfectly so it would connect and look right but it is still essentially 2 different levels of foundations. I had to go 2 foundations away and eyeball it as straight as possible and lay one down, and then lay another back towards my 1st set of foundations and see how it worked out.

Had to play with the roof some to get it to not have a gap. Went 1 wall down to fill in the hole where the lower roof on the 2nd set of foundations didnt quite line up.

I have tried that a couple of times, but I'm so much of a perfectionist that I'd probably spend 2-3 hours trying to get it perfect before getting frustrated.

thats why i dont put any dinos in the living space the side with the fondations is where im keeping my dinos of importants. have not had any issue with falling through i have seen them move forward though on server start up

[Excessive Paranoia]

Originally posted by Sm0k:

Mine ended up lining up perfectly but yeah, I spent a good 30min to an hour working on it. Used K for third person and went through multiple trials and errors.

Edit: The ramp itself is redundant, as you can just step up onto the foundations. As for the roof, if you're trying 2 different levels of foundations there really isnt anything you can do about it unless you're dropping an entire wall height down to your second level.

I'm actually dropping more than a wall height to the lower level, but just slightly. That said, I'm not expecting the roofs to line up at all, as the barn with have a behemoth door, meaning its going to be much taller than the house its attached to.

Originally posted by TheSwissman6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sZ3UBBm0ec

he does it on a raft/platformsaddle but it works the same on the ground

Looks like it the method works just fine with CS structures as well as regular... I guess I was just doing it wrong before.

[Aldor]

Foundations will snap to the height of an adjacent pillar.

A pillar's height can be increased by placing 2 ceilings (one on top of the pillar and one connected to the first ceiling), and then placing a new pillar underneith the second ceiling. The pillar will stick slightly through the second ceiling therefore being a slightly higher snap point for the next foundation. You can then place another ceiling ontop of the new pillar to increase the height further.

Lowering a pillar's/foundation's height is slightly more tricky than increasing but with some practise becomes easier.

Not sure if I explained it well enough but basically you can use ceilings/pillars to create snap points for foundations at differing heights.

[Excessive Paranoia]

Originally posted by Aldor:

Foundations will snap to the height of an adjacent pillar.

A pillar's height can be increased by placing 2 ceilings (one on top of the pillar and one connected to the first ceiling), and then placing a new pillar underneith the second ceiling. The pillar will stick slightly through the second ceiling therefore being a slightly higher snap point for the next foundation.

Lowering a pillar's/foundation's height is slightly more tricky than increasing but with some practise becomes easier.

Not sure if I explained it well enough but basically you can use ceilings/pillars to create snap points for foundations at differing heights.

I've been able now to follow the directions in the video linked above (basically identical to yours) to lower the height of a foundation, but not raise. Is there a different step in the process that I'm missing to raise it?

[Aldor]

Originally posted by Excessive Paranoia:

I've been able now to follow the directions in the video linked above (basically identical to yours) to lower the height of a foundation, but not raise. Is there a different step in the process that I'm missing to raise it?

I've just watched the video... What I described in my post is a very similar techinque but mine will raise the height not lower. I don't place foundations on the same tile as pillars, I place a ceiling on top of a ceiling that has a pillar snapped into it.

[Aldor]

I've just gone into singleplayer to show an example, starting left-to-right. I can snap foundations next to each pillar at different heights:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700828662

[Excessive Paranoia]

Originally posted by Aldor:

I've just gone into singleplayer to show an example, starting left-to-right. I can snap foundations next to each pillar at different heights:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700828662

I get it now, similar, but different with the opposite effect. Thank you.