What weapons are worth it for end game?

[prime11]

either pve or pvp
im sure they all have there uses, but which ones are "must have"
i recently got the fabricated sniper, i do like it, but boy does it loose durability fast lol

[Alpha]

pump action shotgun

[Rock N Mercy]

?

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by prime11:

either pve or pvp
im sure they all have there uses, but which ones are "must have"
i recently got the fabricated sniper, i do like it, but boy does it loose durability fast lol

While I can't speak for PvP, in PvE here is what I enjoy the most. This is assuming you get good BP's of course.

- Fabricated Sniper Rifle
- Pump-Action Shotgun
- Fabricated Pistol w/ scope (cheap ammo)
- Longneck
- Crossbow
- Metal Shield > Riot Shield. Why? Resources mainly. Riot Shield still wins with durability though.

I haven't messed with Tek weapons much outside of the Tek Sword (novelty) and the Tek Rifle. Tek Rifle is cool, but by that point you have a pretty clear idea of what to use and whatnot to.

However, since I can crypod most dinos and bring them in caves, I have found less use for most of these things outside of taming or just for the fun of using them. Like shooting a Ichthyornis with an ascendant Longneck. That honestly never gets old for some reason.

[prime11]

Thanks, i'll consider the shotgun and pistol, the shield gets resources? never even looked at it lol
dont have any teck stuff yet

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by prime11:

Thanks, i'll consider the shotgun and pistol, the shield gets resources? never even looked at it lol
dont have any teck stuff yet

No no, lol. The Riot Shield costs more resources to repair, and the resources tend to be more rare to boot. If I recall correctly, silica pearls and organic polymer. While it has the better durability between the two, once you start getting Ascendant Blueprints they're expensive to make and repair. On the other hand, Metal Shields are far cheaper with less rare resources required. Again, if I recall correctly, it's wood, ingots, and fiber or something. Not sure which is lighter however.

Pump-Action Shotgun is the go-to weapon for most survivors, but the fabricated pistol with a scope is great because the ammo is so cheap.

Another weapon I forgot to mention is the Flamethrower. A good flamethrower can easily take out small foes you might find in a cave.

I must clarify, most of this relies on getting decent rarities or blueprints. You'll find any primitive weapon in Ark rather lackluster for the most part.

[Marshall_maz]

My favourites are:

- Ascendent Shotgun ( Killing power )
- Longneck rifle ( for taming )
- Ascendent Sniper rifle ( for fun ). Sometimes I like to just sit and snipe dinos. Especially those Ichty thiefs.

[prime11]

@Sketchazoid thanks for clearing that up :) i'll atleast try the metal shield, going to respec my points later, so i might as well try the shield out
any vid i watch, theres allways a shotgun being used, so gettin it

-did you say theres a flame flower? missed that, high lv engram, or have to find the blueprint somehow?


@Marshall, Ascendat weapons, um what lv are those? im drawing a blank, it doesnt sound familar lol

[DarkFire]

My first love is an ascendant pump action shotgun. Does terrifying amounts of damage and has a workable magazine size. Unpopular opinion but I also love the tek sword. Unfortunately the tek rifle is next to useless as the projectile speed is pitifully low and the muzzle sway is much too high. Advanced sniper rifle is decent. The revolver combined with a scope is also an excellent weapon.

I wish there was some sort of advanced magazine fed shotgun though to be honest that would probably be a bit OP.

[Marshall_maz]

Originally posted by prime11:

@Sketchazoid thanks for clearing that up :) i'll atleast try the metal shield, going to respec my points later, so i might as well try the shield out
any vid i watch, theres allways a shotgun being used, so gettin it

-did you say theres a flame flower? missed that, high lv engram, or have to find the blueprint somehow?


@Marshall, Ascendat weapons, um what lv are those? im drawing a blank, it doesnt sound familar lol

You craft them from Ascendant blueprints that you find in loot crates , loot drops etc. Much stronger than their normal versions. ( More expensive to craft though )

And the flamethrower engram you unlock on Scorch Earth and I think Ragnarok as well.

[Sketchazoid]

Originally posted by prime11:

@Sketchazoid thanks for clearing that up :) i'll atleast try the metal shield, going to respec my points later, so i might as well try the shield out
any vid i watch, theres allways a shotgun being used, so gettin it

-did you say theres a flame flower? missed that, high lv engram, or have to find the blueprint somehow?


@Marshall, Ascendat weapons, um what lv are those? im drawing a blank, it doesnt sound familar lol

Your stats don't have any impact on how effective the shield is. Only the durability on the shield. As @Marshall_maz pointed out you will find blueprints either in beacons that drop from the sky or loot drops you find in caves, the deep sea, or sometimes scattered across a map (Ragnarok Desert drops for example). For some super easy drops you can try the entrance to the Ice Cave on Ragnarok, a free map. The entrance only has dire bears and penguins. You can even fly into the initial part of the cave. In the entrance you will find blue or yellow drops which can be farmed roughly every 45 minutes. You can get blueprints from a variety of things like fur armor, crossbows, longnecks, and saddles.

You use the blueprints either in your inventory, smithy, or fabricator depending on what the blueprint says. You don't need to have the engram unlocked to use the blueprints. So if you find a blueprint for say a crop plot you can use it even if you're under leveled and don't have that engram yet. Very handy.

So if you want good loot kill Alphas, do cave runs (Ragnarok caves have bosses btw), hunt down every beacon you can, especially any with a yellow ring around them. I don't really mess with deep sea loot drops unless they're above ground. AND yes they're still considered "deep sea" loot drops because they use the same loot tables. The wiki is your friend here.

Edit: Oh forgot to mention those dire bears in the cave can get to ridiculous levels. Not sure what they're level cap is but they're generally between the levels of 250-300 if I recall correctly. They can easily destroy and unsuspecting survivor and dino. However they only attack if you get too close. Keep your distance and they leave you alone. Make sure you have some good fur armor, fortitude, and/or an Otter cause that area gets stupidly cold. Ragnarok is cold in general but some places can get -80F or more.

[𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲]

Pretty much everything is useful outside primitive-class weapons like the club and slingshot.

-Sword - decent hard hitting melee. my favorite companion. Much more lightweight than crappy pike.
-Lance - Pickup to grind. overall useless in PvE outside of grinding potential.
-Assault rifle - great in boss battles. Want durability over damage.
-longneck - Great for taming, insane single shot damage (great for Genesis Lunar biome)
-Fab sniper - Great for caves and picking off multiple targets accurately from afar.
-Xbow - Great for taming high torpor draining creatures like giga.

Then we get to the god tier weapons:
-Fabi shotty - BEAST MODE. absolute monster. RIP old 800%+ damage pumps with 5k+ durability.

For PvE i typically only carry a sword but i'll bring my shotty if i know i'm possibly going on foot or on a small mount like Thyla or Argy.

I think it all depends on your play style and server rates though.

[Chariot]

Originally posted by prime11:

either pve or pvp
im sure they all have there uses, but which ones are "must have"
i recently got the fabricated sniper, i do like it, but boy does it loose durability fast lol

If you can swing the resources, A good ascendant compound bow (If you can even find one, they're rare) can easily out-damage shotguns and rifles, Ammo for it is extremely cheap too, It's a nice alternative but the sniper still might beat it out in DPS.

[Marshall_maz]

Originally posted by Jollabang:

Originally posted by prime11:

either pve or pvp
im sure they all have there uses, but which ones are "must have"
i recently got the fabricated sniper, i do like it, but boy does it loose durability fast lol

If you can swing the resources, A good ascendant compound bow (If you can even find one, they're rare) can easily out-damage shotguns and rifles, Ammo for it is extremely cheap too, It's a nice alternative but the sniper still might beat it out in DPS.

Does it beat the shotgun ? I have a good BP for a compound bow but I have never crafted and tested it

[🦊 Hermit]

Originally posted by Marshall_maz:

Originally posted by Jollabang:

If you can swing the resources, A good ascendant compound bow (If you can even find one, they're rare) can easily out-damage shotguns and rifles, Ammo for it is extremely cheap too, It's a nice alternative but the sniper still might beat it out in DPS.

Does it beat the shotgun ? I have a good BP for a compound bow but I have never crafted and tested it

It can, but it has to be REALLY good.

Dinos have a small resistance against all firearms, but bows (primative, cross and compound) do not count as the same damage, so creatures take full damage from them.

But you also have to consider that the compound bow takes longer to reload, to fire (due to drawing back), and only hits once, where the shotty can hit multiple times each time you pull the trigger. So it's spike damage vs. spread...the spike has to be extremely powerful to add up to the same.

Also, I'd really disagree that the ammo for it is cheap. Yes you can use stone arrows, but then it's damage goes way down. Only way to get damage out of it is metal arrows, and those are pricey as selling your left arm...

[Chariot]

Originally posted by Hermit:

Originally posted by Marshall_maz:

Does it beat the shotgun ? I have a good BP for a compound bow but I have never crafted and tested it

It can, but it has to be REALLY good.

Dinos have a small resistance against all firearms, but bows (primative, cross and compound) do not count as the same damage, so creatures take full damage from them.

But you also have to consider that the compound bow takes longer to reload, to fire (due to drawing back), and only hits once, where the shotty can hit multiple times each time you pull the trigger. So it's spike damage vs. spread...the spike has to be extremely powerful to add up to the same.

Also, I'd really disagree that the ammo for it is cheap. Yes you can use stone arrows, but then it's damage goes way down. Only way to get damage out of it is metal arrows, and those are pricey as selling your left arm...

Three thatch, Three fiber, Three metal ingots, One cementing paste, 1 polymer, you only need about 300-400 to last you for days, but it is pretty expensive.

Compound bows are arguably the best for long to medium range damage, they out-damage even longnecks and fabricated rifles.