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Wilize Feb 5, 2019 @ 4:45pm
Unable to upgrade movement speed on argentavis
Hey, so i been having a long break from the game, And now i've joined a private server,
and when i level the argentavis i can't upgrade its speed anymore.
Has this been removed in a patch and why seems like a stupid thing to do since it wasn't the fastest bird in the game

Thanks for replies :D
Last edited by Wilize; Feb 5, 2019 @ 4:46pm
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Zera_Fox Feb 5, 2019 @ 4:53pm 
It's been a while now that leveling up speed on flyers was removed.
The reason being was for balance purposes.
Players were spending far too much time in the air as opposed to on the ground, which is where the gameplay actually occurs in ARK.

Flyers like the Ptera were moving at speeds well beyond a fair speed and even Argies could reach Mach speeds with enough points put into them.
If I recall, some Ptera were reaching speeds that they couldn't be hit by turrets in PvP which would be another reason they had their ability to level-up speed removed.

There are mods that bring this back into the game, and many people do use them still.
The opinion on the nerf varies by player and because of this will vary by which UnOfficial you join if they'll use a mod to bring it back or not.
KitsuneShiro Feb 5, 2019 @ 5:04pm 
Lots of people use mods to revert this.

Speedy flyers or one of the speed saddle/costume/soup mods.
Wilize Feb 5, 2019 @ 5:08pm 
Thanks for the answer Zera_fox guess i have to ask if the server i play on feel like adding that mod to the game

but with the slow speed the argentavis has now i guess i have to use more time in the air then before
KitsuneShiro Feb 5, 2019 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Wilize:
Thanks for the answer Zera_fox guess i have to ask if the server i play on feel like adding that mod to the game

but with the slow speed the argentavis has now i guess i have to use more time in the air then before
Wait till you get a quetz.
Zera_Fox Feb 5, 2019 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Wilize:
Thanks for the answer Zera_fox guess i have to ask if the server i play on feel like adding that mod to the game

but with the slow speed the argentavis has now i guess i have to use more time in the air then before
It takes you longer to get where you are, sure.
But if you used a faster land mount, you'd get there faster. :P

This was the goal I believe, to consider whether "Safe" was a trade-off for "Speed"?

It's also very unlikely that your current server will want to add this feature to their existing roster.
These sorts of mods have been around since the Nerf happened and if the server didn't already include it, it's unlikely they will now.
Sicksadpanda Feb 5, 2019 @ 5:35pm 
Quetz are slightly faster than argies lol. But argies are massively improved recently as they now have weight reduction bonuses (50%) on a good chunk of items, such as stone, metal (and ingots too), crystals, obsidians, etc.

One thing I liked about the removal of flying speed is that they eventually buffed (as a response to negative criticism) some of the farming dinos. Mammoths have 75% weight reduction on wood, ankys now having 75% rather than 25% on metal, same for doeds on stone. They also buffed beavers' weight reduction on some resources by 50%.
Guscle Bunfun Feb 5, 2019 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by KitsuneShiro:
Lots of people use mods to revert this.

Speedy flyers or one of the speed saddle/costume/soup mods.
There is also Classic Flyers
Wilize Feb 5, 2019 @ 6:40pm 
so im playing on The Center and a lot of this map is kinda ment for flying in my opinion,

but the one who own the server is kinda a friend of a friend of a friend so i will look ind to the Classic Flyers mod,

maybe i can get him to add it, but him and his friends are new to the game so i do not belive that they know of the flyer nerf and i think they think its fine the way it is,

i was just surprised that i was not able to put any skills in the movement speed
and once more thanks to all for the quick responde
Last edited by Wilize; Feb 5, 2019 @ 6:41pm
Hash Myth Feb 5, 2019 @ 6:56pm 
Classic Flyers works good but I had glitches when I first ran it with tamed and wild dinos.
I wiped the wild dinos and let them respawn. I noticed the tamed ones could level after it was loaded and then the server was reset again.

Just FYI :cozybethesda:
RocknGames Feb 5, 2019 @ 7:14pm 
IIRC people were using fast flyers to glitch into base before the client rendered them .Dont think it was about balance.
Humpenstilzchen Feb 5, 2019 @ 7:20pm 
Don´t use classic fliers mod. It messes up the alpha wyvern spawns and furthermore the creator of the mod is not the nicest person..
Use this one, works like a charm: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1083349027
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