Questions About Metal Walls and Bases

[Hasil]

I'm relatively new. I play on my own dedicated server, PvE.

I'm trying to upgrade my base, which is pretty big at this point, from stone to metal. I want it to me dino-proof, even against the big boys like alpha T-rex, etc.

If I leave the foundation stone to save metal, and I just make the walls metal, can dinos break into my base?

How about if I "stripe it" to save metal, making it one strip vertically of stone, the next strip of metal, etc., alternating. Even though dinos could break away the stone, they could not break the metal - could they get in-between when the stone is gone to attack my main base?

Thanks for your help! I'm just trying to figure out how to be efficient with my metal until I can mine enough to make it all metal.

[🦊 Hermit]

If you leave a foundation as a weaker material, dinos can destroy that, then anything which is based on the foundation will collapse regardless of strength. So a metal wall wouldn't do much good if the foundation could be broken.

And alternating between the two materials would work for larger dinos, yes. But bear in mind that it would leave gaps which smaller dinos could enter through.

All you would really need to upgrade to metal is your outer wall though. So long as that is tall enough to prevent creatures seeing over (4 high should be enough unless it's on a slope), nothing should try to attack, and even if it did it wouldn't be able to get past the wall and hit weaker things inside.

[necaradan666]

Striping wouldn't work either, because larger dinos have large area of effect attacks, once the stone stripe is gone they'd be hitting your beds, storage and fabs while trying to eat the metal stripes

[Hasil]

Thanks all. I went up to the NE to build my biggest base (on the Island map), which would be good except alphas can spawn on the mountain, which has happened at least once. Because I am near the slope my wall is pretty damn high, and the base is big to keep my army inside so -- sounds like I can't skimp and I'll need a lot of metal. Hopefully no more alphas spawn as I mine and upgrade!

The upside is the sever is only up when I am online, so at least they can't spawn when I am away from the game! :)

[Julius Seizure]

If you're playing solo increase the drop rates a bit to counter the excessive grind (game is designed to be played in a tribe). That'll help you get the materials you'll need to build your base properly.

As said, just build your outer wall metal and put a metal behemoth gate down to get your largest dinos in and out, then you can build with whatever materials you prefer inside.

[brulis2]

Good information and advice. Sometimes it's difficult to find this kind of detail when researching and learning about effective building, especially for single-player. At one point there was a problem with replacing stone fence foundations with metal fence foundations. Is that no longer an issue?

[Veeshan]

I've heard rumors gigas can "see" ten foundations away through walls.

[Ragnorok]

Truth is that unless you build were gigga and alpha dinos mainly Rex, stone is usually fine. When I played on offical pve we ended up building a piller wall far out from our primary base walls. Titans and gigga don't attack the pillers unless YOU attack them while they are stuck. About 4 pillers apart and about 10 - 12 high made from stone we did this because some Jack hole was training titans and gigga to bases so he could could get good twitch ratings. He actually got a Titan stuck in the pillers a few times it's a great ss

[🦊 Hermit]

Originally posted by Veeshan:

I've heard rumors gigas can "see" ten foundations away through walls.

Can't say I've tested the giga directly, but I can say that I've never encountered a creature which can see through walls. Or rocks too, for that matter. Once went up to the top of a mountain and a rex spawned while I was there, I hid behind a rock and even when it was stood directly on the other side of said rock not ten feet from me, it never saw me. Finally just walked off the edge and started chasing other things down the mountain.

In fact, dinos can't even see through glass. In my screenshot gallery I have a few pictures of a paracer mobile base I built using S+ glassmetal. It has huge sheets of glass all around it to aid with visibillity while riding, but despite the glass being transparent it's invisible to predators. I can walk right past spinos and karkinos without taking agro.

[Hasil]

Originally posted by Ragnorok:

Truth is that unless you build were gigga and alpha dinos mainly Rex, stone is usually fine. When I played on offical pve we ended up building a piller wall far out from our primary base walls. Titans and gigga don't attack the pillers unless YOU attack them while they are stuck. About 4 pillers apart and about 10 - 12 high made from stone we did this because some Jack hole was training titans and gigga to bases so he could could get good twitch ratings. He actually got a Titan stuck in the pillers a few times it's a great ss

But what if you have a stone-wrecking dino spawn within the perimiter of that pillar wall? No bueno!

That's why I also worry about having stone inside the base, actually -- if an alpha spawn *inside* your base, it could wreck everything stone within. . .

[🦊 Hermit]

Originally posted by Gearterner:

But what if you have a stone-wrecking dino spawn within the perimiter of that pillar wall? No bueno!

That's why I also worry about having stone inside the base, actually -- if an alpha spawn *inside* your base, it could wreck everything stone within. . .

Dinos will not spawn within a certain radius of most structures. So unless you have a very large, wide open area with nothing in it at all, you will not have to worry about spawns inside the walls. If you do have large areas like that, just space out some thatch foundations at intervals across the area and those will prevent said spawns.

[Hasil]

Originally posted by Wild Male Gigantopithicus:

Originally posted by Gearterner:

But what if you have a stone-wrecking dino spawn within the perimiter of that pillar wall? No bueno!

That's why I also worry about having stone inside the base, actually -- if an alpha spawn *inside* your base, it could wreck everything stone within. . .

Dinos will not spawn within a certain radius of most structures. So unless you have a very large, wide open area with nothing in it at all, you will not have to worry about spawns inside the walls. If you do have large areas like that, just space out some thatch foundations at intervals across the area and those will prevent said spawns.

Thanks -- didn't know that! I think my base is too big, need to build some stuff in the middle to stop the spawns ;)