ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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MasterWaffle Dec 5, 2018 @ 10:46pm
Riot armor useless?
Does riot armor have any use over flak? With high end blue prints the armor rating and durability can be the same. But riot armor always has worse hyperthermic insulation and is more expensive to repair. Am I missing something?
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Ferchi Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:00pm 
i think is just good vs wooden club (the wooden club in the past was overpowerfull, now is nerfed) and free with the gacha inthe last DLC
but really heavy, expensive and bad without fortitude and the worst, you need high lvl to craft
i've played for years and never i've neded that sh7t LOL

i think the best way to use that thing still vs turrets
but now with the gacha you can find free and better Flak armor with more protection and more cheap to fix

the best place for the riot armor is in the industrial grinder i think xd
Jyandalf Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:20pm 
It certainly doesn't look as cool as painted flak.

Its also cheaper than flak in the sense that you don't need metal
Last edited by Jyandalf; Dec 5, 2018 @ 11:21pm
Boomer Voncannon Dec 6, 2018 @ 4:30am 
Originally posted by 1nc0mp3t3nt_1:
It certainly doesn't look as cool as painted flak.

Its also cheaper than flak in the sense that you don't need metal

Umm, it doesn’t need metal but it does need polymer, which is generally harder to get your hands on than metal, hence why it’s regarded as more expensive than flak. OP riot is supposed to provide torpor resistance, but imo not enough to warrant the difference in cost. I tend to agree that it’s grinder fodder.
the7thguest Dec 6, 2018 @ 5:31am 
Poly is so easy to get your hands on, nevermind the map. if there is one thing I never run out, it's poly.
Boomer Voncannon Dec 6, 2018 @ 5:48am 
Originally posted by the7thguest:
Poly is so easy to get your hands on, nevermind the map. if there is one thing I never run out, it's poly.

You can say that all day long, but if you try to say it's easier than getting your hands on metal, I'm gonna call shenanigans. We're talking relative scarcity here, not absolute.
Davetiger Dec 6, 2018 @ 6:46am 
Never tried it but I thought it lasted longer versus Arthropluera, I try to never get hit by these pests but I thought riot would stand up better against them
Last edited by Davetiger; Dec 6, 2018 @ 6:51am
🦊 Hermit Dec 6, 2018 @ 11:16am 
In my experience riot does have better defense and dura than flak. But then in my games I play with a slightly boosted drop quality multiplier, so perhaps that exagerates the difference - maybe in vanilla it's harder to see, and doesn't come up as frequently.

Certainly the riot shield is much, much better than the metal one though. Much lighter to carry around, while tending to have better dura.

And on the point of riot not having as much insulation - high level otters will solve all your issues in that area. Aside from Aberration where I need charge, my otter is never off my shoulders.
Nokim Dec 6, 2018 @ 12:12pm 
i think it the depends on the map. on the island flak ruled, was easiest to find in ascendant and highest armor rating with great insulation and easiest to find repair mats for.

in aberration hazmat suit was the only suit.

In extinction while the gacha do produce great flak, its produces even better riot. I have almost 4k armor with mostly riot on extinction and polymer in extinction is about as hard to find as water on the island map. Although extinction is a toss up of riot or guillie to deal with the heat.
Jyandalf Dec 6, 2018 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Boomer Voncannon:
Originally posted by 1nc0mp3t3nt_1:
It certainly doesn't look as cool as painted flak.

Its also cheaper than flak in the sense that you don't need metal

Umm, it doesn’t need metal but it does need polymer, which is generally harder to get your hands on than metal, hence why it’s regarded as more expensive than flak. OP riot is supposed to provide torpor resistance, but imo not enough to warrant the difference in cost. I tend to agree that it’s grinder fodder.
Sxo, what's more expensive?

Slaughtering all of a certain type of (relatively easy to kill creature, the exceptions being mantis and corrupt dinos, well the corrupt apex dinos) aninal, or flying an anky to a metal hotspot, farming the metal, then smelting the metal into usable ingots?

Its all down to a matter of perspective but when I'm looking at the amount of time it takes to jump on my enforcer/giga/spino/wyvern and got farming compared to going and harvesting thousands of metal and then refining it(because who is going to go and farm only a little bit of metal if your carrying an anky?) I'm still saying my opinion of riot gear being less expensive is still correct.
Leviticus Dec 6, 2018 @ 12:15pm 
Riot gear does have several uses over flak. It has the potential to be higher armor rating due to its naturally albiet slight, higher base armor. Same durability. A full set of prim will grant you 575 armor where a full set of prim flak grants you 500. Using the base multipliers of quality, you can in theory reach 1500 armor alot faster with riot than you can with flak.

2nd, its visuals and I dont mean cosmetic appeal. Metal is shiny, even when dyed. Riot isn't. You camo paint riot gear and you wont stick out as much.

3rd, it cuts incoming torpor damage by half as long as it isnt DoT Torpor, so the initial 200 from a shock dart gets cut to 100 but the DoT of the shock dart remains unphased. Decent against the horrifying effects ofa melee build with a club as well.

4th, intimidation. If someone is rich enough to be spamming riot gear and wasting the poly left and right, 1, its probably craft boosted to hell and 2, they're probably an alpha or beta tribe.
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Date Posted: Dec 5, 2018 @ 10:46pm
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