Kibble Changes and You.

[Kisston]

Reading the latest in the ARK news i saw there are many changes coming, S+ and Kibble. What i read though got me thinking, how is this going to affect players and future ARK gameplay? The section i read is as follows

Kibble changes that will be in the beta branch:

All eggs have been assigned a value based on the size and rarity of the egg. These sizes include: Extra Small, Small, Medium, Large, Extra Large, and Special. The eggs are used in a recipe to create kibble of a coinciding value: Basic, Simple, Regular, Superior, Exceptional, and Extraordinary. This new system will make it so that creature kibble desires are based on the quality levels instead of specific creatures, which should greatly decrease the number of tamed creatures needed for the purposes of taming.

Regarding previously crafted kibble:

- Old kibbles will not be wiped, and will inherit their new "value/color" appropriately.
- Old kibbles will still work to tame their appropriate creatures.
- Old kibble will no longer be craftable, only the new types will be craftable.

We will be taking your feedback into serious consideration regarding both of these changes so we invite you to communicate with us on our social media, the forums, reddit, etc with your opinions and critique. Once we're happy with where these features are at, we will be bringing them over to the PC main game.

I for one am worried that 2/3rds of the new kibble will be uncraftable off Extinction, and am hoping the recipes are adjusted accordingly to make them universally available.
What do you think? What worries you most about these changes and what it might affect for gameplay on all servers?

[Natjur]

The new kibbles (the current recipes is about to change) can be crafted on any map except the special one, as that uses eggs from a very small set of dinos and those dinos are not on all maps.

You got nothing to worry about

[Furyion]

another developed mess to add to ark all we need..killint it softly continously

[Tiramisu]

The only problem I have with it is that it wasnt done sooner ^^

The point of it is to streamline things, so that A) You dont 'gotta catch um all' and B) Dont find out the map you are on doesnt have X dino to make that 1 type of kibble you were after to tame a certain dino.

The egg sizes are already in the game and functioning - I have specific sized eggs needed for crafting a few things and it works fine. You can see the breakdown on the wiki https://ark.gamepedia.com/Dinosaur_Eggs

[Kisston]

Testing both when augmented kibble first came out and again today the extinction resources needed to make them cannot be substituted by other materials they themselves are substitutes for, being corrupted nodules (organic polymer), Extinction fungal wood (Ab fungal wood and normal wood), Blue crystalized sap (blue gems), and red crystalized sap (Red gems). Element dust is also a requirement for exeptional kibble. As a matter of fact, the only augmented kibble that is currently universally craftable is extraordinary kibble, so long as you have a titanoboa egg or golden hesper egg.

[Sans]

Originally posted by Pickle Rick:

The only problem I have with it is that it wasnt done sooner ^^

The point of it is to streamline things, so that A) You dont 'gotta catch um all' and B) Dont find out the map you are on doesnt have X dino to make that 1 type of kibble you were after to tame a certain dino.

The egg sizes are already in the game and functioning - I have specific sized eggs needed for crafting a few things and it works fine. You can see the breakdown on the wiki https://ark.gamepedia.com/Dinosaur_Eggs

The link given here gives the egg sizes, and here is a table that the eggs produce:

Extra small eggs = Basic kibble
Small eggs = Simple kibble
Medium eggs = Regular kibble
Large eggs = Superior kibble
Extra large eggs = Exceptional kibble
Special eggs = Extraordinary kibble

Hope this helps.

[Sans]

Originally posted by Natjur:

The new kibbles (the current recipes is about to change) can be crafted on any map except the special one, as that uses eggs from a very small set of dinos and those dinos are not on all maps.

You got nothing to worry about

If you mean the Extraordinary kibble, the Titanoboa spawns on all the Official maps and Ragnarok.

[Tiramisu]

Originally posted by Kisston:

[..]the only augmented kibble that is currently universally craftable is [..]

Oh, I didnt spot your fear (havent had my coffee yet.) Think of the augmented kibble as the blueprint for what they are going to do. I dont know the new recipes, but it should be something achievable on any official map (and considering its accessibility, probably any unofficial map too.)

[Sans]

I'm sure the final rework will have ways to produce all the kibbles on all the maps, it would be pretty silly if it didn't.

[British Geezer]

well I think this is a step in the right direction, as kibble farms will only need 6 types of egg layers instead of a shed load of dino's clogging up the server tame limit, but yes it will mean some, well maybe quite a few dino's will become tameless or in other words useless, but it will narrow down the need for massive egg farms .. which is a good thing for server tame limits, and perhaps they could give the lesser Dino's a new leash of life....but don't hold your breath.

[🦊 Hermit]

So long as the recipes aren't too complex and don't require ludicrously silly rare resources, I'd say this will probably be a good thing. In fact personally I would have gone further and just had 3 or 4 tiers of kibble, rather than 6, and I don't know that I'll bother to switch from the kibble mod I currently use back to the vanilla system even after this change is in place. But it's definitely better than what we had before.

[Saberwind]

So I've been playing around with this for a little bit and I have some bones to pick with it you would think in some areas you would be allowed advancement but from what I'm understanding I'm going to tame a dodo a dilophosaurus a parasaur a lystarasaurus.. just to get what I originally tamed so I can get basic cable now the next tier requires you to tame compys dimorphodons pteranodons raptors trikes to get simple kibble but none of these require simple kibble to tame I would have loved to see them pre-work this make basic kibble to tame pteranodons and trikes and the like and so on and so forth

[Tiramisu]

I doubt they are going to re-work this any further. It took them years to do this re-work, so this is probably it.

I liked the idea of the tiers, but when I realised you could use higher tiers to tame anything below it, it meant that we have gone from needing 40 Dino types (roughly), down to not 6 (1 for each tier), but pretty much just 1 type really!

For example, get yourself some Rexs and make exceptional kibble, which lets you tame nearly every KO Dino in the game and some passives! Or some bad leveled Yutys for extraordinary and GG.

[Cobretti]

Originally posted by Pickle Rick:

I doubt they are going to re-work this any further. It took them years to do this re-work, so this is probably it.

I liked the idea of the tiers, but when I realised you could use higher tiers to tame anything below it, it meant that we have gone from needing 40 Dino types (roughly), down to not 6 (1 for each tier), but pretty much just 1 type really!

For example, get yourself some Rexs and make exceptional kibble, which lets you tame nearly every KO Dino in the game and some passives! Or some bad leveled Yutys for extraordinary and GG.

Luckily for us this is a sandbox so the reasons to collect every dino in the game is as infinite as your imagination or lack thereof.

[Veeshan]

Originally posted by Cobretti:

Originally posted by Pickle Rick:

I doubt they are going to re-work this any further. It took them years to do this re-work, so this is probably it.

I liked the idea of the tiers, but when I realised you could use higher tiers to tame anything below it, it meant that we have gone from needing 40 Dino types (roughly), down to not 6 (1 for each tier), but pretty much just 1 type really!

For example, get yourself some Rexs and make exceptional kibble, which lets you tame nearly every KO Dino in the game and some passives! Or some bad leveled Yutys for extraordinary and GG.

Luckily for us this is a sandbox so the reasons to collect every dino in the game is as infinite as your imagination or lack thereof.

Lazy thinking. you're pretending to be ignorant of basic human psychology.perhaps you feel the trade-off is worthwhile but come out and commit to that.

[Rayvon]

Originally posted by SunShade:

another developed mess to add to ark all we need..killint it softly continously

lol