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Dreamwalker1232 Nov 13, 2018 @ 11:42pm
Gacha farming
whats the best way to farm them? some say keep them away from each , some say keep pairs so that the mate boost helps get more crystal and for food some say give stone while others say metal , polymer. Can anyone give me the best way they found out by actually doing themselves rather than hearing? i want a proper method rather than rumors which i hear. i also heard about it looking sad or something when its not in good place
Last edited by Dreamwalker1232; Nov 13, 2018 @ 11:49pm
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Originally posted by A Big Hairy Monster:
Originally posted by Dreamwalker:
whats the best way to farm them? some say keep them away from each , some say keep pairs so that the mate boost helps get more crystal and for food some say give stone while others say metal , polymer. Can anyone give me the best way they found out by actually doing themselves rather than hearing? i want a proper method rather than rumors which i hear. i also heard about it looking sad or something when its not in good place

People seem like theyre bsing you. There's very little need to do all sorts of complex steps that people claim affect things.

0. Don't believe what the wiki says right now. Some idiot keeps editing in speculation as fact, adding personal commentary, claiming things like element dust isn't a possible production line, babies can have production influenced, and the like - they're all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I myself have a gacha who makes dust, and I got him on day 1.

1. Element Dust as a drop from gachas isn't something they learn while growing up... gacha's production line is determined when they are born/spawned. Every Gacha is unique so to speak - its totally random, and its set when they first appear. People who claim they trained their gacha to make something are just falling for apophenia - they were lucky, that's all. Trust me, I've bred almost two dozen from a pair of max level parents already.

2. Owl Pellets are what cause the sparkling lights. Nothing more, nothing less. In fact, if you just give a Gacha 3-4 pellets and NOTHING else and pay attention, you'll probably see them eat a pellet on its own eventually along with berries or w/e from a trough when they get hungry enough... they'll 'keep' the lights for a little while after without actually making a crystal. (and if you feed them random stuff in the meantime, they'll still grow a crystal.

3. People who claim you get better results from this that or the other resource are full of ♥♥♥♥. I've got....maybe two dozen gachas now, and the only thing they're ever allowed to eat is stone or hide (because they're stupid easy to farm in huge numbers), and owl pellets. The end, full stop. The REAL qualifier for getting the important drops is the owl pellets. That's all you need - owl pellets and whatever trash you happen to have on hand. I get enough crap from the dozen or so active gachas I have (the others are in storage) that I actually am funding a lot of my Tek Structures by salvaging the stuff I get from the ascentend crystals, using a grinder.

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Now, some of the things people are saying is still good advice... but not for the reasons you think.

1. Mated pairs - Gachas need to be separated from each other. The EXCEPTION to this is that a mated pair is fine being together. That means that if your base is a large enough square, you could put in 8 Gachas (2 in each corner) instead of just 4. Mate boost doesnt do jack for crystals - again, the ONLY thing that influences that is feeding them owl pellets. Anyone who tells you otherwise is the kind of person who believed pressing B helped you catch pokemon better.

2. Owl 'Farming' - some people will tell you to spam your owl's frost ability. This is actually pretty good advice, but claiming you need one of a given level... ehhh not really. The key ingredient there is having high enough stamina to drain such that the owl spends a lot of food recovering said stamina, and having enough food to not die from running out. You could just tame a junk-tier level 10 and raise him up a bit. As for the poop-button spam.... ehhh depends. Not sure how well that works, but our server kinda lags wierdly with that - the bird'll vomit a whole ton, but in reality it only makes 1-2 'real' pellets. But that's on our admittedly laggy server - ymmv there but its worth checking into.

3. The 'proper' method is very simple. 1. Keep mated pairs at least 7-8 foundations away from each other (make sure they dont have muted tiny bubbles on their backs. Sometimes cryopod shuffling around can fix it if they seem stuck). 2. Load em up with literally anything you can farm easilly (I prefer stone) 3. Add owl pellets. 4. Preferally, be on unofficial and have some kind of vaccuum to pick em all up for you.

Edit: I should also add, you can check a baby's production line from the second they're claimed, and then shove them full of whatever and watch, so that should be proof enough you can't change it.

Edit 2: For people who don't have time / inclination to read the later posts, Element Dust is still confirmed to be available - Wildcard hasn't stealth-removed it. It's just either stupid rare or available only in singleplayer for some reason (as the only instance I've seen of it are from sp or people who didn't mention if it was on a server or not).
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🦊 Hermit Nov 14, 2018 @ 11:42am 
Okay, question to all those who have found a gatcha with element dust in it's production line: Have you found that one, or another one, recently...or was it a while ago?

I've been looking for one for the past two days, doing laps around the sunken forest on my quetz and taming every one I see. After well over 50 tames, I have yet to see a single one offer this resource, whereas ones with black pearls, metal and organic poly are commonplace. After a while I started spawning them in with console commands, just to see if I could get one that way - if I did I wouldn't have kept it, but it would give me a reason to keep looking for a legit wild spawn. However after 30+ console spawns I haven't seen an element dust one either.

I don't deny that they did used to spawn this item, there's a screenshot on the wiki which proves that. However I'm beginning to think that this was removed in the latest patch, and that finding an element dust one now is impossible. Only those which had already spawned with that resource still have it.

Can anyone offer proof that this is still a thing, even in the current version of the game?
Last edited by 🦊 Hermit; Nov 14, 2018 @ 11:43am
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Defektiv Nov 14, 2018 @ 12:12pm 
I've only ever found one element dust producing gatcha. It was my first 150 gacha tame and I haven't seen another dust producer since, in around 50 gacha tames. Red Gem producers are second in rarity according to my own experiences only.

Also if you park a couple snow owls near the front of your gacha then it will pick up their pellets as they puke them up. It will eat one once in a while but it will still gain more than it uses and will fill up its inventory with them over time. Then just take a doed out, fill up with stone, park next to the gatch, unload all the stone to the gacha filled up with pellets and enjoy your early christmas for the next half hour.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1565014613
Last edited by Defektiv; Nov 14, 2018 @ 12:17pm
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Dreamwalker1232 Nov 14, 2018 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by Hermit:
Okay, question to all those who have found a gatcha with element dust in it's production line: Have you found that one, or another one, recently...or was it a while ago?

I've been looking for one for the past two days, doing laps around the sunken forest on my quetz and taming every one I see. After well over 50 tames, I have yet to see a single one offer this resource, whereas ones with black pearls, metal and organic poly are commonplace. After a while I started spawning them in with console commands, just to see if I could get one that way - if I did I wouldn't have kept it, but it would give me a reason to keep looking for a legit wild spawn. However after 30+ console spawns I haven't seen an element dust one either.

I don't deny that they did used to spawn this item, there's a screenshot on the wiki which proves that. However I'm beginning to think that this was removed in the latest patch, and that finding an element dust one now is impossible. Only those which had already spawned with that resource still have it.

Can anyone offer proof that this is still a thing, even in the current version of the game?
actually its just like u said for me , the first day of extinction i tamed a gacha (actually 6) out of which 2 of them had element dust , one of them died but the other one is still alive, recently jsut like u i have tamed every gacha i see and i found all other resources except element dust after the patch so yeah it could be removed unless someone proves it wrong
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🦊 Hermit Nov 14, 2018 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Dreamwalker:
actually its just like u said for me , the first day of extinction i tamed a gacha (actually 6) out of which 2 of them had element dust , one of them died but the other one is still alive, recently jsut like u i have tamed every gacha i see and i found all other resources except element dust after the patch so yeah it could be removed unless someone proves it wrong

Yeah, they did make a lot of changes to the gatcha in the last patch didn't they. The notes don't say anything about element dust, but I suppose it could be a stealth nerf...perhaps to get more people playing Extinction rather than just grabbing the scout/enforcer and a gatcha to fuel them on other maps, then transferring away. Or perhaps it could even be a bug, which they didn't mean to do.
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A Big Hairy Monster Nov 14, 2018 @ 8:38pm 
Originally posted by Hermit:
Okay, question to all those who have found a gatcha with element dust in it's production line: Have you found that one, or another one, recently...or was it a while ago?

This is actually a reasonable question, one that a lot people seem to NOT be asking. My Gacha was tamed within the first 24hours of release, and in single player at that. I have not seen it come up since then. However, I'll also note that of my two dozen Gachas, I have also only ever seen Black Pearls come up once as well, so it may well be that some resources are much rarer than others.

Edit: I should also add that mine was tamed at a fairly high level. Our server uses a difficulty setting of like a whoppping TWENTY, so Gachas go all the way up to level 600. I DOUBT that matters, but you never know. Certainly it has an effect on the frequency we get ascended gear out of them - given they hit crafting skills over 300%.

Edit 2: I'm actually curious about this now. But its easy enough to check on. I'll hop into SP and do some cheaty taming and see if anything comes up. Will get back to you.
Last edited by A Big Hairy Monster; Nov 14, 2018 @ 8:42pm
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Dreamwalker1232 Nov 14, 2018 @ 8:46pm 
Originally posted by A Big Hairy Monster:
Originally posted by Hermit:
Okay, question to all those who have found a gatcha with element dust in it's production line: Have you found that one, or another one, recently...or was it a while ago?

This is actually a reasonable question, one that a lot people seem to NOT be asking. My Gacha was tamed within the first 24hours of release, and in single player at that. I have not seen it come up since then. However, I'll also note that of my two dozen Gachas, I have also only ever seen Black Pearls come up once as well, so it may well be that some resources are much rarer than others.

Edit: I should also add that mine was tamed at a fairly high level. Our server uses a difficulty setting of like a whoppping TWENTY, so Gachas go all the way up to level 600. I DOUBT that matters, but you never know. Certainly it has an effect on the frequency we get ascended gear out of them - given they hit crafting skills over 300%.

Edit 2: I'm actually curious about this now. But its easy enough to check on. I'll hop into SP and do some cheaty taming and see if anything comes up. Will get back to you.
even mine was the same high level tamed , asc gears and all. Black pearl is still available but quite rear , but element dust just seems impossible to get right now
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A Big Hairy Monster Nov 14, 2018 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by Dreamwalker:
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Originally posted by Defektiv:
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Originally posted by Hermit:
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Confirmed, at least in my still existing single player game. Turned on cheats and spawned in about 30 Gachas - of them, only ONE had element dust, but it got it. Screenshots below - first one has the gacha who got the dust, other one shows lines i spawned in (left and far right).

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1565282449
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1565282459

I'll note that I think Defektiv's observation on sap/gems seemed pretty accurate. Red Sap popped up only twice out of 30, and green gems only once. (I may 'keep' one of the 30 actually haha... he ended up with Red Sap, Blue Sap, Frag Green, and Crystal lmao).

Edit: Also possibly worth noting, I spawned in a variety of levels, and it was the 150 that got element dust. I doubt that matters though - my difficulty is set to 20 so a max level is actually 600 for me, not 150.
Last edited by A Big Hairy Monster; Nov 14, 2018 @ 9:07pm
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🦊 Hermit Nov 15, 2018 @ 4:52am 
Hmm, interesting to read, and thanks for the responses, especially the test^^ As I said above I tested it myself too, however I didn't spawn quite so many as that. I guess I'll run another test myself too next time I'm on, and see if I can replicate.

On the topic of their resources - I've actually had red sap come up very frequently in my experience...perhaps even a quarter to a third of all gatchas I tamed. And black pearls were even more common. For me the rare items seem to be organic poly and obsidian - I found them only a handful of times combined. Perhaps there is just some kind of zany RNG at play in their resource selection process.
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A Big Hairy Monster Nov 15, 2018 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Hermit:
Perhaps there is just some kind of zany RNG at play in their resource selection process.

Ehh... I took statistics in college. 120 dinos or so does not really make a very good sample for statistical analysis, especailly given the number of potential resources it has to pick from, even if it needs to be unique w/ multiple slots. I mean, I'm sure there is some kind of wieghting to it, because it wouldn't make sense for dust or polymer to be common, yeah? But actually figuring out those values is gonna be hard.

Edit: Loooooool... someone found my image of Dustbin and uploaded to the wiki. Hahahahaha. He was my original post proof that they do in fact get element dust. Lmao.
Last edited by A Big Hairy Monster; Nov 15, 2018 @ 5:08am
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🦊 Hermit Nov 15, 2018 @ 5:48am 
Ah, that was yours? lol that was the pic I was referring to in my post above when I said the wiki had proof that they did spawn in the past, grats on your claim to fame XD
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Apochalüpt Jun 17, 2019 @ 6:01am 
I agree it is way to rare to get an element dust gacha. A couple days ago I bred over 200 gachas starting from a wild pair I tamed. After a couple of iterations (born females and males were bred also) I got one element dust gacha. But since then no luck :/
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