PSA: Single Player, Change maps without angering your Tame Dinos

[mylar536]

TLDR: Single Player, don't make a tribe. If you do, leave it ASAP and reclaim your dinos with the console command givetome.

I was happily playing single player, had a few decent bases built on the Island Several Dozen nice Tames, was in the late 50's level wise when I decided to pop over to Scorched Earth to grab some of the Map-Locked Engrams.
Scorched earth was a fun challenge, in a couple nights I managed to get a decently established base, tamed some interesting stuff and leveled up to 67. Time to head home. Transfer back to the island, suicide the placeholder human, respawn as my downloaded self, wake up in my nice pretty main house....

A Parasaur has Detected you!

WTF? I look out my bedroom window, down onto my fenced in mountain crawling with all my spare tames set on wander. Radar, my Para set to turret mode in the center is freaking out. I come out the back door and all my Dinos are red, owned by the Tribe of Mylar....

It took me a few hours of loading old saves and trying stuff to figure out what happened. At some point I had created a tribe. Easy to do because if you click the tribe button on single player, the fastest way to get rid of the dialog box is to just create one, otherwise you have to click outside of the dialog and then hit escape to get rid of it. When I transferred to Scorched earth, the Tribe did not follow the character, so when I transferred back I was no longer a member of my own tribe. The tribe I was in when I tamed and Hatched my Dinos. The default tribe settings make tames belong to the tribe, not the player, so when I got back they did not like me.

I spent a lot of time trying to renumber tribe files and move ark profiles around to get back into the tribe from my Island server, in the process I ended up in a different tribe of Mylar on scorched earth, and pissed off my tames over there as well, it was a long mess. The final solution was so easy it eluded me for quite some time.

1. If you are in a tribe, leave it. It will try to get you to make a new one, click somewhere other than the window asking you to name your new tribe, then hit Escape to clear the window.
2. Relog
3. Reclaim your dinos with givetome
4. Relog
5. Transfer to any other map you played on and start at 1

It took a bit, but now I can jump between maps without losing my tames.

[Leviathan]

TLDR
DONT MAKE A DAMN TRIBE ON SINGLEPLAYER BECAUSE IT WILL SCREW YOU OVER SO HARD!

[mylar536]

Yeah, well I did not set out to make a tribe. At some point when exploring the interface I must have hit the tribe button over the inventory, That brings up a "name your tribe" box. If you just hit escape that Dialog box does not clear, so the most natural way to get rid of the window is just to hit accept.

You can exit the Name your Tribe box by clicking outside of it to switch focus back to the main game and THEN hitting escape, but thats not really terribly intuitive.

Also, for new players, the box just says "Name your tribe" It does not say "Name your tribe and then bend over because this will wreck your ###."

So yeah TLDR: Single player tribes bad.

I just wish that was mentioned in game, or tribe creation was gated somehow in singleplayer. By time a new player discovers that single player tribes are bad, there is a good chance they have already created one, and are googling around trying to fix whatever it screwed up.

[Leviathan]

Originally posted by mylar536:

Yeah, well I did not set out to make a tribe. At some point when exploring the interface I must have hit the tribe button over the inventory, That brings up a "name your tribe" box. If you just hit escape that Dialog box does not clear, so the most natural way to get rid of the window is just to hit accept.

You can exit the Name your Tribe box by clicking outside of it to switch focus back to the main game and THEN hitting escape, but thats not really terribly intuitive.

Also, for new players, the box just says "Name your tribe" It does not say "Name your tribe and then bend over because this will wreck your ###."

So yeah TLDR: Single player tribes bad.

I just wish that was mentioned in game, or tribe creation was gated somehow in singleplayer. By time a new player discovers that single player tribes are bad, there is a good chance they have already created one, and are googling around trying to fix whatever it screwed up.

Yep. I've been butt-raped many times because of singleplayer tribes... :(
So yeah I wish they turned off tribes for singleplayer.

[mylar536]

Yeah, I got lucky.

Once I figured out what was going on and how to remedy it, the worst part was trying to reclaim all my chattel dinos, set to wander, on a fenced in mountain side.

I was lucky they were all send to defensive or passive stances. If I had left anything aggressive it would have been a much messier problem.

[HighFlyer15]

Since it's single player files and such, you could just use the admin command ForcePlayerToJoinTargetTribe while looking at one of your previous dinos or structures to join the tribe again.

But in general, yeah just avoid tribes in SP.

[Fate (-{SoH}-)]

And thats why if your playing single player u remove the tribe button all together.
Hard learnt lesson that you never wanna repeat.

[Wolfe]

I only just started playing this single player and it was compulsory to make a tribe, I didn't even name it either it just defaulted to my character's name.

Haven't tamed any dino's yet as I'm going for a pure solo experience to begin with, but I don't want to be stuck later on just because I was defaulted into a single player tribe.

I have an option to leave the tribe but I don't want to lose my raft base. I changed the structure governance settings to personal ownership so if I leave the tribe I should retain anything I personally built right?

Also there are personal governance settings for dinosaurs too, maybe it could have helped with the initial problem?

If anyone could confirm that's be great, not planning on leaving the island anytime soon so will stay in the tribe for now.

[Leviathan]

Originally posted by Wolfe:

I only just started playing this single player and it was compulsory to make a tribe, I didn't even name it either it just defaulted to my character's name.

Haven't tamed any dino's yet as I'm going for a pure solo experience to begin with, but I don't want to be stuck later on just because I was defaulted into a single player tribe.

I have an option to leave the tribe but I don't want to lose my raft base. I changed the structure governance settings to personal ownership so if I leave the tribe I should retain anything I personally built right?

Also there are personal governance settings for dinosaurs too, maybe it could have helped with the initial problem?

If anyone could confirm that's be great, not planning on leaving the island anytime soon so will stay in the tribe for now.

As long as it is set for personally owned, then yes, leaving the tribe SHOULD not affect it.

[Wolfe]

Originally posted by Leviathan:

Originally posted by Wolfe:

I only just started playing this single player and it was compulsory to make a tribe, I didn't even name it either it just defaulted to my character's name.

Haven't tamed any dino's yet as I'm going for a pure solo experience to begin with, but I don't want to be stuck later on just because I was defaulted into a single player tribe.

I have an option to leave the tribe but I don't want to lose my raft base. I changed the structure governance settings to personal ownership so if I leave the tribe I should retain anything I personally built right?

Also there are personal governance settings for dinosaurs too, maybe it could have helped with the initial problem?

If anyone could confirm that's be great, not planning on leaving the island anytime soon so will stay in the tribe for now.

As long as it is set for personally owned, then yes, leaving the tribe SHOULD not affect it.

Luckily I backed up my save and have restored it as leaving the tribe gives you everything back built on the raft, but NOT the raft itself, rendering it useless and undrivable.

However, I'm not that bothered as my raft base is only wood, so my plan is to gather all the materials I need to build a new and improved raft base, then park the raft right by a safe beach and leave the tribe, thus converting my raft base into a permanent beach base, and only then building my new raft base so it's just mine and finally being free from the curse of a tribe so I can tame some dinos.

Many thanks, especially for the TC that suffered this so I don't have to, I salute the fallen.

[Elliebird]

Thank you so much for this. I made a tribe so I could keep track of my friend when they hopped over into my non-dedicated session, had no idea that it would become a problem later on.

[Wolfe]

OK, an even better solution for came up me. Simply leave the tribe, and if you want the raft back that the base you own is built upon, then you can simply use the TAB key to open console and type GiveToMe when targeting the raft.

It gives you ownership of structures, dinos and rafts, but dions still need training apparantly, but I didn't have any anyway. So I'm home free out of the tribe with all my stuff and my raft base.

Time to enjoy single player Ark the way it's supposed to be.