Does anyone else feel like the game gets boring when you get flyers?

[SlaZe]

I find that whenever you get flyers, the game gets so much easier. There's no need to tame fast dinos like Gallimimus that are weak but very fast because whenever there's a threat, just fly away on your flyer.

When you don't have flyers and you ride around the Island or Ragnarok or whatever map you're playing on, it's nice seeing all the details placed around the maps and feeling the fear of something maybe jumping out and attacking you and your precious Trike or whatever. But when you get flyers, you almost never get that feeling because, as I said earlier, whenever there's a threat you just fly away.

It's so much scarier riding through a huge redwood with your fastest raptor or a caravan of tank dinos knowing that when a group of allos or a rex attacks you, you cant just fly away from the danger

I don't know maybe I'm very wrong and having a flyer is the most fun ever or something, this is just what I thought let me know if you feel the same or if you think I am retarded

[EvilMonk]

you are not wrong, i think the same

[margalus]

I don't abuse flyers, so no. But I agree that it could get that way if you abuse them to avoid everything.

[Esteys]

Yeah that's why i love aberration but to bad i'm having to worst performance on that map.

[🦊 Hermit]

Yes I agree, and this is precisely why I was in favor of the flyer nerf. They were overpowered in PvP, and in PvE it's far more fun running land caravans across the map than just airlifting everything. I play most of my games now without allowing myself to tame flyers, and if I do use them, it's only in a moderate way which doesn't spoil the land experience - just reducing repetitive grinding tasks or the like.

[stecph]

Yes sure,same for me in SP.
The way I deal with it is by limit the use of flyers to when I have not much time to play,otherwise I take the funpath by using a land dino,surely more fun.

[༒ǝꞁf⚣٩๏̯͡๏)۶]

Calm down there son. We don't go saying nerf. It's a cuss word and a bigot word and a divorce word all rolled into one. I would rather run butjay naked in the street with fish hooks tied to my climate than be subject to a nerf. The lady just wanted to talk a nice talk about the flying mounts not start a rebellion.

[Charcharodonto]

i agree. Although it is nice to fly and in some cases the only way to explore. They invalidate many animals.

Beast of burden? A paracer would need close to double the weight of an argent or quetz to become usefull simply because you have to traverse over land. a bronto would need even more carry weight due to being slower.

going from a to b? Flyers beat nearly everything due to ignoring terrain. except for the really slow flyers. and even then a landmount is riskier depending on terrain/ threats.

potential threats? there are almost no threats to a flyer unless you are landing without stamina in a bad spot.

[hallofnero]

I went with no flyers on my main, limited mods, no-cheat-codes play through of TheIsland. Tamed them for the Eggs or pretty colors mostly, and just left them perched on top of my Greenhouse. Even gave them names like 'Not for Flying' and 'Do Not Use' lol.

Taking that long caravan up to the side of the volcano on foot for a metal run was always interesting. Or actually having a use for a Kapro, gathering up snails n penguins and carrying them back to base for taming. Good times.

[👑Lord.Floki 👑]

this is why they have prim+ no flyers

[SlaZe]

Originally posted by Odin:

this is why they have prim+ no flyers

I think that ark works better as a primitive game, like the best weapons you get are the simple pistols but primitive+ has never worked on my server, no one can join me.
I always try to disable all of the futuristic engrams and flyer saddles because it's not only hard, but as I said, I think ark works better as a primitive game because of it's setting (if you don't consider the fact that you are in a simulation / whatever)

[👑Lord.Floki 👑]

have you tried it lately.they have fixed alot of known issues like the ones you mentions

[SlaZe]

Originally posted by Odin:

have you tried it lately.they have fixed alot of known issues like the ones you mentions

Actually haven't, I finally got a Dedicated Server running and we wanted to use Prim+ but I forgot to enable it and we just decided to play without it.
I should try it later though

[tom.purvis]

Now that you can pretty much use the transport balloons anywhere in the game I just removed the ability to tame fliers on my server. We've had a lot more fun this time around.

I think Aberration was my favorite map and mostly because there were no fliers at all.

[BumpInTheNight]

Yep, Argens specifically are just too useful for our private PvE experience...I mean they are awesome, straight up best of our mounts for general purpose. I thought it was weird when they were further buffed by giving them that weight reduction on materials recently. Basically negated any reason to even bother with Quetzels unless you want a platform.

Aberration was a refreshing experience to force us to re-evaluate how we operate. I don't think I'd ever do our server with a noflyer in effect but it is tempting.

I think part of our dependence on flyers is how clumsy it is to manage multiple land dinos compared to just pull a couple argens for the same trip.

[RequiemsRose]

Fliers can make some aspects of the game easier but I don't find them infallible. Just like anything else in the game, all it takes is one mistake or failure and that flier is just as dead as your land dinos would be. I've lost fliers for a number of reasons (a lot of which were admittedly my own stupidity or lack of attention) like fall damage, lava, giga's broken collision, or simply parking in a bad spot and not realizing my passive flier was being pecked to death by a pack of troodons while I was building a short distance away. I am quite thankful that fliers now have the passive flee option as well, retrieving them can be annoying but its better than trying to find their bag amongst the bushes before it despawns (or the "delight" when it glitches mid-air so you basically need a platform to recover it).

Just like any other dino, fliers are better suited to certain tasks. A wider variety of tasks than many land dinos admittedly, especially with something like the argent, but they aren't good at everything. I still use my beaver to go gather wood, or my horses to get berries (not the most effective, I know, but I love them), I've even managed to kill a wild wyvern on a thyla before.

(If you are curious about thyla vs wyvern, I was in the burned area around volcano on ragnarok hunting for chitin and organic poly, couldn't outrun the wyvern I picked up from the nearby nest so I lured it to the obsidian tunnel instead so that it's ability to fly couldn't keep it out of reach from the thyla. The thyla itself is one of my prized breeding lines but I still didn't think it could pull off killing a wyvern, didn't have much choice but to try though).