dinosaur walls?

[Ramen]

i see gates but no walls? are they just higher level to unlock?

[Vesuvius]

No such thing.

[🦊 Hermit]

You can build your own dino walls with the fence foundation and wall engrams. Just stack the walls on top of each other to make them higher.

[jonny2772]

Originally posted by Hermit:

You can build your own dino walls with the fence foundation and wall engrams. Just stack the walls on top of each other to make them higher.

Adding to this, people tend to stick with gates only since they're cheaper overall (size of one gate equals quite a few walls), easier (just the gate and the frame), and generally easier to put in angle next to other gates/walls.

[🦊 Hermit]

Originally posted by jonny2772:

Adding to this, people tend to stick with gates only since they're cheaper overall (size of one gate equals quite a few walls), easier (just the gate and the frame), and generally easier to put in angle next to other gates/walls.

I've seen a lot of people do that, but I gotta admit I don't really understand it myself. I ran the numbers once and it didn't add up.

The behemoth gates are 12 walls high, so if you're making a wall that high then the gates certainly are cheaper. But even a bronto/spino cannot climb over a 4 high wall, so 12 high really isn't nessecary to block dino invasions. And if you're building 4 high, then using walls is cheaper than using gates.

The only reason I could perhaps see for using gates is to keep out a titanosaur. But those are so rare, so hard to tame and so slow, that I think you'd rarely see one used online and it could probably be taken out by a well equipped tribe before it got up to a base wall.

[Kisston]

Doing the "gate wall" thing also reduces the number of total building parts to your base, behemoth gateways being 7 walls wide and 12 tall and only having 2 parts (frame and gate).

[Mi]

Using gates also allows you to leave your base wherever you want, not just through a single (or maybe 2) gates at fixed positions.

[jonny2772]

Originally posted by Hermit:

Originally posted by jonny2772:

Adding to this, people tend to stick with gates only since they're cheaper overall (size of one gate equals quite a few walls), easier (just the gate and the frame), and generally easier to put in angle next to other gates/walls.

I've seen a lot of people do that, but I gotta admit I don't really understand it myself. I ran the numbers once and it didn't add up.

The behemoth gates are 12 walls high, so if you're making a wall that high then the gates certainly are cheaper. But even a bronto/spino cannot climb over a 4 high wall, so 12 high really isn't nessecary to block dino invasions. And if you're building 4 high, then using walls is cheaper than using gates.

The only reason I could perhaps see for using gates is to keep out a titanosaur. But those are so rare, so hard to tame and so slow, that I think you'd rarely see one used online and it could probably be taken out by a well equipped tribe before it got up to a base wall.

It's a matter of convenience mostly, instead of ~30 walls + fence foundations you only need a gate and a frame. Also since they don't snap in place you can easily angle them however you wish, and like it was already said, less objects to load, especially online. I remember one day with my cousin as the host, he built an entire fortress out of walls alone overnight (spawning the parts obviously, but that's beyond the point), and then I entered his host. My network connection still has nightmares about that day.

[L0N RNGR]

Also it keeps things from seeing INTO your base and then biting the walls. If the giga can't see your stuff, it won't try to eat it.

[Desertworld]

there is a mod for it as usual but on official servers you will have to build multiple walls one over another on your own

[Gravetech(Kane)]

will probbly not see this due to the amount of people who complained about the BG walls

[GobboKirk]

A 3x3 wall block of some sort would be nice though...
For that matter a few more different gate sizes wouldn't hurt either...

[Mi]

Originally posted by GobboKirk:

For that matter a few more different gate sizes wouldn't hurt either...

This. The difference between the dino gate and the behemoth gate is ridiculous, there needs to be something in between.

Mods can do it, why doesn't vanilla add some more gates?

[GobboKirk]

Originally posted by Mi:

Originally posted by GobboKirk:

For that matter a few more different gate sizes wouldn't hurt either...

This. The difference between the dino gate and the behemoth gate is ridiculous, there needs to be something in between.

Mods can do it, why doesn't vanilla add some more gates?

Aye leave the behemoth to be needed for bronto/giga sized stuff only.
4 wide door with 5 wide needed for the frame.. Then 5-6 high maybe.