Pegomastax... are they working as intended?

[Attack Kitty]

The Pegomastax...

I get the concept, it's supposed to be a rare dino that steals your items, and if you want your items back then you have to chase it down and kill it. It's a bit troll-ish to the players, but it's not a horrible concept really.

However...

1) They are not rare at all.

I have had as many as 4 of them attack at the same time. In open terrain like a beach, where you can lookout for them, it's sometimes impossible to travel anywhere without moving through some of them and surrendering some items. They are EXTREMELY un-rare.

2) You don't really have any chance to chase them down and get your stuff back.

Unless you happen to be on an Argent or 200+ Rex, you pretty much have to just let them have your stuff. You can't chase after them attacking them on foot, no human melee attack stands a ghost of a chance of actually killing a Pego. Pegos run FAST, making them hard to hit at all by hand. And if you're not on scorched earth, their tiny size disappears into folliage almost instantly. With their speed and size they are hard to hit at all, and like all of the new dinos they are extremely tough to kill. One took a very rare item from me, and I followed it on a Dire Wolf literally halfway across the map, picking up aggro from like 20 other aggressive dinosaurs, and still failed to kill it after managing to land half a dozen good hits on it. Chasing one and killing it is just unfeasible unless you have a super-powered mount or an argent that can pick the pego up and kill it in it's claws.

Out of the 50 or so items I've 'donated' to wild pegomastax, I've only recovered 2, and only when I had an argent with me.

3) When you are in folliage, or on a large mount they are impossible to avoid.

Pegos simply disappear in the further zoomed out view of riding a large dino. And in any sort of foliage or ground cover, they are just impossible to keep in view. This is when it is not raining, not foggy, and in broad daylight (ie: during the 40% of the time you can actually see in ark). So avoiding them isn't a realistic option.

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If Pegomastax ran noticeably slower, were more visible (brighter colors perhaps?) and had about 1/4 their current health (or less) then they might function as advertised. But in their current state, they just force people to be even more reliant on fliers and take away an action bar slot.

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SO, the TL:DR version:
Players must now keep the 0 slot free of anything useful, always, and have a constant supply of throw away items ready to stick in the 0 slot at all times. Oh, and never put anything valuable in a dino's inventory.

Is that really the intended effect Pegomastax are meant to have on gameplay?

[Forger of Souls]

İlk olarak segfault*Choco Taco tarafından gönderildi:

I just had one of the birds attack me out of no where and steal my pistol.

I farmed for four days off regular rocks to get the metal to make that pistol.

It didn't drop it when I killed it.

Maybe if this "feature" is broken it should be disabled until it's fixed.

Thats because the bird "eats" what it steals...no matter what it is...

[YEET]

yeah, sometimes they dont even steal, just attack, My neighbour lost 2 brontos to them and some other people on the same server lost all of their dinos, so they make it almost impossible to leave your dinos on passive since they spawn inside peoples bases...

[NGCaliber]

İlk olarak segfault*Choco Taco tarafından gönderildi:

I just had one of the birds attack me out of no where and steal my pistol.

I farmed for four days off regular rocks to get the metal to make that pistol.

It didn't drop it when I killed it.

Maybe if this "feature" is broken it should be disabled until it's fixed.

wait... so there is a wild pegomastax running around with a gun? Why are you necro'ing a post from January? You need to get that gun back quick or you will be in soooo much trouble.

Also try keeping berries or something else in the last slot of your hotbar. They take anything that is there first.

[Mabs]

İlk olarak NGCaliber tarafından gönderildi:

wait... so there is a wild pegomastax running around with a gun? Why are you necro'ing a post from January? You need to get that gun back quick or you will be in soooo much trouble.

Also try keeping berries or something else in the last slot of your hotbar. They take anything that is there first.

I had a torch in my last slot and he took the pistol anyway. Everything that thieves in this game has always taken random objects, never the object in the last slot.

İlk olarak Forger of Souls tarafından gönderildi:

Thats because the bird "eats" what it steals...no matter what it is...

That's stupid.

[Severian of Nessus]

Absolute worst addition to the game. I hate them, violently. They should have just deleted our 0 slot and called it a day. It would have been less irritating with the same result. I keep my 0 slot full of a stack of mejo and name them things that would get me banned from the forums when they tame.

I hate them.

Whomever brought them to the table should have been immediately fired for having no idea what makes a game enjoyable instead of just plain stupidly irritating.

[Mabs]

İlk olarak ☢☠ꞨᴓʅΔiƏᏒ905☠☢ tarafından gönderildi:

i seriously hope your trolling as that is just one source of metal...and its the worst....

How could that be considered trolling? This was the only metal I had access to at the time. I don't have encyclopedic knowledge of the game nor do I know all the best power strats for leveling up and gathering materials quickly. I couldn't find any other metal and couldn't progress anywhere else to continue looking so I farmed what I could.

[🦊 Hermit]

This thread is an old one, but since the topic has recently been revived tenfold with the addition of the ichthyornis it's still valid. The pegleg is way too troll-y, but the bird is just completely over the top!

At least with a pego you have a chance to get your stuff back if you're quick, but the ichthyornis destroys anything it takes from you with no chance to get it back, and is practically impossible to hit with bolas so there's no way to stop it systematically taking every single item you own one at a time.

[BurlsoL]

The problem is that Pegomastax have like a base health of 200, plus another 40 per level in the wild. Meaning that a level 10 one has about the base health as a level 1 trike while being both small and fast. On servers with higher difficulty settings, the health of these things can be well beyond what a person below metal tier equipment could even output in a reasonable amount of time, while being something that spawns commonly in groups and in those places where players first spawn.

If they kept their stealing to only food items or had more reasonable health, they would be fine. As they are now, they are a momentary terror that seeks you out to steal your equipment before sprinting away and needing about a dozen or more spear strikes to kill. If you do manage to tame one, their only use is to wear one on your shoulder and throw it at the nearest large predator while you run away. They're quick and tanky as a tame, so make for a very good distraction to get away from a rex. Set it free, run it at the rex, run it to the nearest group of brontos or trikes, and run away.

[Mabs]

İlk olarak ☢☠ꞨᴓʅΔiƏᏒ905☠☢ tarafından gönderildi:

Its common for trolls to say exact same thing as you did . There is many sites that provide info on the game , for example gamepedia is a site that gives info on ark so there is your encyclopedia . There is metal all over the map if you just explore you will find it (Nearly every hill/mtn, caves and your pick regular rocks has metal)

As for strats just do like you would in RL as it is a survival game after all so if you found a material that need you search for a easier way to get it .

Actually it's you who appears to be trolling me. See how easy that is? Just because someone's had a different experience from you in a game (a very large and complicated game) doesn't mean they're trolling you. For instance, I had about seven therizinosaurs hanging out around my spawn/home the first few weeks I was on this server. Getting out and exploring wasn't exactly an option for me. As for gamepedias and encyclopedias I'm not one to look up too much about a game as I'm playing it unless I'm having a very hard time. Hitting rocks a few hours for a few days isn't that much of a hard time, and I needed the stone for my house anyways, so I chose to continue in that fashion.

Regardless of my decisions, actions, and outcomes, having an enemy unit in a game that can delete items from my inventory without regard for their rarity or value and giving me no chance to avoid or prevent it is ridiculous.

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İlk olarak Attack Kitty tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak -==XR==- tarafından gönderildi:

WTF is op talknig about? My toon has a 130% run speed and i can easily chase them down, i have butchered every single one that has stolen from me. Not to mention after a few seconds they run back to you to steal more. Even if you dont have the speed pull out a bow or rifle and slap them in the mouth its eazyyyy.

but they don't die until you hit them a lot.
granted, I've been on two new servers since they came out, so I haven't had "good" gear to go murdering with, and not at a level where i could pump melee really... but they seriously take a lot more to kill than makes sense. And they disappear really fast in folliage.
nevermind the fact that it's not uncommon to have more than one attack you, and then what do you follow?

1-2hit with a 400%dmg char with a 250% dmg sword, if you dont have such char and such sword: what do you even fear to lose? your primitive bow?

[ToXiN]

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İlk olarak Attack Kitty tarafından gönderildi:

but they don't die until you hit them a lot.
granted, I've been on two new servers since they came out, so I haven't had "good" gear to go murdering with, and not at a level where i could pump melee really... but they seriously take a lot more to kill than makes sense. And they disappear really fast in folliage.
nevermind the fact that it's not uncommon to have more than one attack you, and then what do you follow?

1-2hit with a 400%dmg char with a 250% dmg sword, if you dont have such char and such sword: what do you even fear to lose? your primitive bow?

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