So... the tek caves... WTF WC!?!?!/

[Sam Of Haywood]

so can someone explain to me how ANYONE is supposed todo the alpha tak cave with lvl 711 dinos and some 108 giga's running about in there, and i mean do it legitly? in an hour? I would love to see a tribe on official do it and record it, because i can hardly belieive ANYONE can do that cave without cheating/mods :P its all sorts of crazy. ;P

[Forger of Souls]

Dimporphs are a problem, thats becaus, if I remember right, they target the player when argro'd.

[HighFlyer15]

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

alpha tak cave with lvl 711 dinos

Odd. I went in and only saw level 395 as max level in there. Does it determine the level depending on how many people and tames you bring? Wouldn't be surprised with the whole countdown and counting of survivors and tames entering.

Originally posted by jacob99:

your allowed 50 dinos. and from when i tested it on a seprate save by spawning in the alphja trophies and stuff, fly through on god mod and there where only 2 gigas (pretty sure hard is limited to 2) and eevn thou there are alot of dionos, numbers dont matter with the fact that dinos hit for aoe damage so you will be killing many at once, only problem and real danger for anyone is the dimorphs

Also odd, I went in and saw at least 20 Gigas.

[OofstinGames]

Try pherimone darts, you can make the dinos attack each other :D

[jacob99]

Originally posted by HighFlyer15:

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

alpha tak cave with lvl 711 dinos

Odd. I went in and only saw level 395 as max level in there. Does it determine the level depending on how many people and tames you bring? Wouldn't be surprised with the whole countdown and counting of survivors and tames entering.

Originally posted by jacob99:

your allowed 50 dinos. and from when i tested it on a seprate save by spawning in the alphja trophies and stuff, fly through on god mod and there where only 2 gigas (pretty sure hard is limited to 2) and eevn thou there are alot of dionos, numbers dont matter with the fact that dinos hit for aoe damage so you will be killing many at once, only problem and real danger for anyone is the dimorphs

Also odd, I went in and saw at least 20 Gigas.

you must be glitched, that is definetly not intended. got any mods or dino spawns replaced as in if you replaced microraptors or purlovia spawns with gigas.

[kwikasacat]

Originally posted by TᗩKK:

Originally posted by Dynamo:

yea excuses i hear.. nothing legit , 1 hour is idiotic thinking wait a timer period is well idiotic again... and why for large tribes only.. that is wrong should be made for all groups..like the old mmos that did ,they had templates for all types of groups. And not just that asian based cookie cutter ,copy cut paste games ..are dead.wonder why...zzz and of the past.Also if baseing this end game off of nothing original , end game will flop ,be a joke and die.. 2017 no inovation for end game asian based olde school..fails. Yet impossible for all but a large tribe..lol..waste of workmanship and time resouces..

nobody is forcing you to play or go in that cave its made for end game and only for strong big alphas not for solo players

so solo players arn't allowed to see the end game unless they play on private? thats the problem

[TheyCallMeGunny]

It CAN be done. It HAS been done.

However, it takes a LOT of people and dinos. Unlike the bosses, who can actually be solod (despite this being VERY hard without a team), the Tek Cave doesn't seem soloable at all.

Grab some friends.. ♥♥♥♥, grab some enemy tribes and Ally for a few hours.

The biggest problem is the dimos. They are the absolute worst thing in that cave. And sadly, no amount off Ascendant gear or even Tek will save you from them. So there you have to get creative: Grenades, Theris, mammoths, maybe a penisaur. Find a way to AOE the crap out of them and hope you survive. It's not meant to be a guaranteed win. It's the end fo the game, a very hard game to begin with.

Yes, I think the dimos are overkill. But the tone of your message is one of rage, not reason. Believe it or not, the gigas are hardly a problem: Those 50 dinos aren't coming home either way.. Coordinate those whistle groups and make a few sacrifices.

Be sure to have gravestones at home. You'll need them.

[jacob99]

Originally posted by PAkwikasacat:

Originally posted by TᗩKK:

nobody is forcing you to play or go in that cave its made for end game and only for strong big alphas not for solo players

so solo players arn't allowed to see the end game unless they play on private? thats the problem

i do it just fine. seems easy with 50 rexes, each one doing 1000 a hit every second (from having 650% melee, can see damage with the damage popup numbers on.) thats 50000 dps, that would kill a wild giga in 2 seconds and normal dinos almost instantley (except those tanky op dimorphs, dang B*****ds freaking dodging evey hit and targeting the rider with insane damage)

[Sam Of Haywood]

thing is, even ascendent won't protect against lvl 711 dino's especially after the devs nerfed weapons on official servers like they did, as stated above i'd love to be proven wrong with video proof that it can be done on official with no cheats/hacks, thing is even if you do have a dino with aoe your gonna get dismounted either by a kapro or purlovia's

[Sam Of Haywood]

Originally posted by TheyCallMeGunny:

It CAN be done. It HAS been done.

However, it takes a LOT of people and dinos. Unlike the bosses, who can actually be solod (despite this being VERY hard without a team), the Tek Cave doesn't seem soloable at all.

Grab some friends.. ♥♥♥♥, grab some enemy tribes and Ally for a few hours.

The biggest problem is the dimos. They are the absolute worst thing in that cave. And sadly, no amount off Ascendant gear or even Tek will save you from them. So there you have to get creative: Grenades, Theris, mammoths, maybe a penisaur. Find a way to AOE the crap out of them and hope you survive. It's not meant to be a guaranteed win. It's the end fo the game, a very hard game to begin with.

Yes, I think the dimos are overkill. But the tone of your message is one of rage, not reason. Believe it or not, the gigas are hardly a problem: Those 50 dinos aren't coming home either way.. Coordinate those whistle groups and make a few sacrifices.

Be sure to have gravestones at home. You'll need them.

actually, my tone isen't rage as i'm a server owner, and hell i even admitted to not doing that cave legitly after dying 20 times to some random kapro or some shenangans, lol

[jacob99]

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

thing is, even ascendent won't protect against lvl 711 dino's especially after the devs nerfed weapons on official servers like they did, as stated above i'd love to be proven wrong with video proof that it can be done on official with no cheats/hacks, thing is even if you do have a dino with aoe your gonna get dismounted either by a kapro or purlovia's

hey arnt meant to be level 711, they are meant to be level 220 max. you must have some mods or congif level change

[Sam Of Haywood]

Originally posted by jacob99:

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

thing is, even ascendent won't protect against lvl 711 dino's especially after the devs nerfed weapons on official servers like they did, as stated above i'd love to be proven wrong with video proof that it can be done on official with no cheats/hacks, thing is even if you do have a dino with aoe your gonna get dismounted either by a kapro or purlovia's

hey arnt meant to be level 711, they are meant to be level 220 max. you must have some mods or congif level change

its different for alpha caves, unless the overridedifficulty thing makes it scale, which is crazy

[TheyCallMeGunny]

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

Originally posted by TheyCallMeGunny:

It CAN be done. It HAS been done.

However, it takes a LOT of people and dinos. Unlike the bosses, who can actually be solod (despite this being VERY hard without a team), the Tek Cave doesn't seem soloable at all.

Grab some friends.. ♥♥♥♥, grab some enemy tribes and Ally for a few hours.

The biggest problem is the dimos. They are the absolute worst thing in that cave. And sadly, no amount off Ascendant gear or even Tek will save you from them. So there you have to get creative: Grenades, Theris, mammoths, maybe a penisaur. Find a way to AOE the crap out of them and hope you survive. It's not meant to be a guaranteed win. It's the end fo the game, a very hard game to begin with.

Yes, I think the dimos are overkill. But the tone of your message is one of rage, not reason. Believe it or not, the gigas are hardly a problem: Those 50 dinos aren't coming home either way.. Coordinate those whistle groups and make a few sacrifices.

Be sure to have gravestones at home. You'll need them.

actually, my tone isen't rage as i'm a server owner, and hell i even admitted to not doing that cave legitly after dying 20 times to some random kapro or some shenangans, lol

I agree that it's a bit much. But I also see why: This game has the most widespread player base when considering player skill AND time invested. Because ARK factors both: A player who knows the game can do well, but a player who knows the game equally well and has invested more time (being a persistent world) will surpass him.

And the TEK cave is designed with only the diehard players in mind: the ones who both know the game and have played it a lot on the same server.

The majority of the ARK community is never going to have Tek Gear. Hell, I'm about as diehard as it gets, but having come back only 8 days ago from a long away-period I've only gotten to Dragon Medium, and I lost a truckload of dinos on the path there. And I never sleep: 120+ hours every week no exceptions.. So that would take most 6 months.

And I know full well, I am nowhere near ready for Tek Cave yet. It could be another 2 weeks.

Thing is, you aren't intended to go from Bosses to tek cave. After you beat the bosses, you have another long grindy road to stumble down again: Culling the weaker dinos and raising them all up over again. Making sure all riders have the best equipment possible.

And the worst part is, you will probably still die more often than not.

But that's where they got one thing very right:

Once you beat the tek Cave: You gain no rewards except an official ending to the game (which isn't out yet) and a level-increase. you will NEVER have to beat it again, because it doesn't give you anything like Element or tames or even XP.

And that's the Tek Cave is. It's the last challenge for players who've done everything else.

It's a good way to quit the game, honestly. A retirement cave.

[jacob99]

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

Originally posted by jacob99:

hey arnt meant to be level 711, they are meant to be level 220 max. you must have some mods or congif level change

its different for alpha caves, unless the overridedifficulty thing makes it scale, which is crazy

level 220 IS the alpah cave level, the beta and gamme levels are lower.

[Kresslack]

It's called "Ascension" for a reason...

It's not for solo noobs.

[Sam Of Haywood]

Originally posted by jacob99:

Originally posted by Scipizoa:

its different for alpha caves, unless the overridedifficulty thing makes it scale, which is crazy

level 220 IS the alpah cave level, the beta and gamme levels are lower.

jeez, i never knew the caves scaled with the servers difficulty level, and here i have mine set to 9, so no wonder everythings super op